The Democrat's War on Whites

[MrPots]

If minimum wage issues, health care and social programs aren't part and parcel of todays working class benefits I don't know what are. All are championed by the democrats and threatened by the GOP.

As such I'm not understanding some of these posts.

I'm white and I wouldn't vote GOP these days if they were torturing me......

Voting GOP would be crazy against my best interests.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Wilson was a Yankee.

Pete

So you had to go back 100 years to find a northern liberal that was a racist.

I'd have to go back maybe 2 seconds to find a shitload of southern conservative racists.

[piece-itpete]

With the stature of a President? Heck look at FDR.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Wilson was a Yankee.

Pete

Wilson was from Staunton, Virginia. An asshole "Good ol' Boy" to the core. Today, most of those assholes are Republicans.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

With the stature of a President? Heck look at FDR.

Pete

Roosevelt hated white people?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

With the stature of a President? Heck look at FDR.
Pete

FDR's record on Civil Rights was pretty damned decent considering the times he lived in and the fact that he had the racist Southern Democrats to deal with.

Thank God you took assholes off our hands.

Now they own the Republican Party.



http://www.shmoop.com/fdr-new-deal/race.html

Roosevelt was no racist (and his wife Eleanor was an early hero of the civil rights movement) but the President knew he needed the support of Southern Democrats to pass his legislation and he wasn't willing to risk his program for the sake of racial justice.

The harsh logic of Roosevelt's racial stance was expressed most clearly in 1938, when liberal congressmen attempted to pass federal anti-lynching legislation to halt the most horrific type of anti-black terrorism. (Several thousand blacks were killed by lynching in the United States between the 1880s and 1960s.) Southern Senators angrily filibustered, and FDR defied black leaders and his own wife by refusing to throw his support behind the measure. "I did not choose the tools with which I must work," he explained. "Had I been permitted to choose them I would have selected quite different ones. But I've got to get legislation passed by Congress to save America. The Southerners... occupy strategic places on most of the Senate and House committees. If I come out for the antilynching bill now, they will block every bill I ask Congress to pass to keep America from collapsing. I just can't take that risk."

Roosevelt's need to accommodate southern racists often complicated the implementation of his programs. Distribution of relief in the South, for example, slowed to a trickle because Southern relief administrators didn't want to distribute money to blacks. One Georgia relief agent told Roosevelt's emissary Lorena Hickok that "any N----- who gets over $8 a week is a spoiled N-----, that's all... The Negroes regard the President as the Messiah, and they think that... they'll all be getting $12 a week for the rest of their lives."19 Domestic workers and agricultural laborers—the leading employment sectors for black women and men, respectively—were excluded from many of the benefits of labor legislation and social security.

In the end, while Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt became beloved figures to millions of American blacks, the New Deal did little to advance the cause of racial equality in America. Roosevelt's unwieldy coalition of blacks andsouthern whites survived the 1930s intact, but ultimately broke apart under the strains of the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. It was no accident that the conservative revival in America in the late twentieth century began with the mass defection of southern whites from the Democratic Party following desegregation.

[piece-itpete]

"Hitler didn't snub me--it was [FDR] who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram." - Jesse Owens

Blue thanks. All I remembered was he was Governor of NJ.

Pete

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

"Hitler didn't snub me--it was [FDR] who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram." - Jesse Owens

Blue thanks. All I remembered was he was Governor of NJ.

Pete

That was then, this is now.

You can look nostalgically into the past all you want Pete.

It won't change the facts as they exist today.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

"Hitler didn't snub me--it was [FDR] who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram." - Jesse Owens

Blue thanks. All I remembered was he was Governor of NJ.

Pete

Jesse wasn't a German subject, otherwise he would have been somewhere other than an Olympic stadium with the other less-thans awaiting a final solution. AH couldn't afford looking like a racist ass that early in his reign as aspiring Fuhrer/ savior of the Arian races.


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[piece-itpete]

Indeed. I was showing FDRs actions towards blacks (he invited the white athletes to meet him btw), not comparing him to Hitler. To be clear, he was not comparable to Hitler.

Pete