NY Times Editorial Regarding Marijuana

[bobabode]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/29/op...an-region&_r=0

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by bobabode

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/29/op...an-region&_r=0

Good article. People who oppose total decriminalization of the use of marijuana have a screw loose. Particularly the right-wing Constitutional "originalists" who wouldn't know the original intent of the founders if a founder bit one of them on the ass.

The founders abhorred the concept of government having any control whatsoever over whatever the citizens therein might decide to put into their bodies. The founders were rolling over in their graves in 1914 when the Harrison Act was passed. And they have continued rolling ever since...as drug laws in this country have become more and more oppressive. The only right wingers who have their heads on straight when it comes to marijuana and other "street" drugs are the right-winger libertarians.

Of course American conservatives, Republican politicians, and other so-called Constitutional Originalists, will insist that things have changed since the founding and that the trafficing of drugs like crack, heroin, meth and others didn't exist at the time of the founding...and that such things need to be taken into account. But when anybody suggests that times have changed and there were no such thing as Glock 21's and AR-15's at the time the Bill of Rights was adopted, they scoff and mumble "out of my cold dead hands" and other such shit.

[piece-itpete]

The Founders wouldn't have cared at the STATE level. They were determined to keep the Fed's noses out. Didn't work though.

Pot? That stuff can lead to cigarettes

Pete

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The Founders wouldn't have cared at the STATE level. They were determined to keep the Fed's noses out. Didn't work though.

Pot? That stuff can lead to cigarettes

Pete

I've heard it'll lead to bourbon too.

[piece-itpete]

EVIL!!!

Pete

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The Founders wouldn't have cared at the STATE level. They were determined to keep the Fed's noses out. Didn't work though.

Pot? That stuff can lead to cigarettes

Pete

I believe the founders cared considerably about intrusions into the private lives of Americans on any level. But I agree, they probably would have resisted intervention on the state level. Didn't work at all.

That's not the point though. The point is, with all the complaints from the right as to the left's convenient tinkering with the Constitution, the "original intent" dimwits are just as likely to tinker with the Constitution as anybody else when it suits their ideology and purpose. Case in point...the bullshit about the 2nd Amendment having anything to do with personal home defense against marauding bands of swarthy urban criminals.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The Founders wouldn't have cared at the STATE level. They were determined to keep the Fed's noses out. Didn't work though.



Pete

50 different state laws is insane. the country was only constructed this way so no one would loss any power that they already had over areas.

it's a bad system from the get go and our founding fathers were no better than the slobs that run things today.

should i go on?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by noonereal

50 different state laws is insane. the country was only constructed this way so no one would loss any power that they already had over areas.

it's a bad system from the get go and our founding fathers were no better than the slobs that run things today.

should i go on?

I'll go on for ya. The only authority state government should have is escorting foreign dignitaries around Keokuk and organizing Independence Day Parades.

In particular...the sad state of affairs in this country's educational system and our inability of our graduates to compete with European and Asian graduates is due to the fact that they have centralized ed. systems and we have idiotic boards of education in backwater shitholes in Kansas (all over the country actually) who have decided that Genesis oughta be taught in science class...among other moronic BS.

[piece-itpete]

How does that explain China beating the heck out of Californian students in say math?

Which Kansas is VERY good at.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/pepg/PDF/...Challenged.pdf

Pete

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

How does that explain China beating the heck out of Californian students in say math?

Which Kansas is VERY good at.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/pepg/PDF/...Challenged.pdf

Pete

At least you've graduated from straw to seeds and stems for your states rights argument Pete.