Obama's Brilliant Strategy

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Originally Posted by whell

I hope you're not suggesting that The President of the United States has somehow attained "victim" status.

Oh, I'm sorry bro I forgot that victimhood is after all the main constituent philosophy of the 'bagger nation, of which you seemed to have joined Mike.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Obama and the rest are just playing political games. They are not really serious about the welfare of the country.

"Politics is one of the ways used in determining which groups pay what price for whatever happens." - Michael Richards, Revolutions in World History

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Politics is about the acquisition and maintenance of power, often done by rewarding your supporters and punishing your enemies. It's no secret that most politicians are far more concerned about their next election than the country at large, though I think it's worse in the House than anywhere else due to their short terms.

FDR played political games too...but we still got social security.


I mean that is what politics is all about.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

FDR played political games too...but we still got social security.

I mean that is what politics is all about.

Occasionally, they slip up and let their continual quest for power be interrupted by doing something worthwhile. This certainly cannot be said of the current Congress.

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The New Deal was a power maintenance initiative, as was Johnson's GAS. In both these cases it wasn't a slipup. It was a response to a paradigm shift related to the rights of the citizen. Sometimes the roads of power are paved with good.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Occasionally, they slip up and let their continual quest for power be interrupted by doing something worthwhile. This certainly cannot be said of the current Congress.

oh do not get me wrong those guys are worthless.

Boehner is basically on a work slow down so the base will re-elect him and his anti-Obama friends from the South. Problem is that base is shrinking.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Politics is about the acquisition and maintenance of power, often done by rewarding your supporters and punishing your enemies. It's no secret that most politicians are far more concerned about their next election than the country at large, though I think it's worse in the House than anywhere else due to their short terms.

Yeah, but there are times when a leader needs to step up, get above the
election calculus, speak straight and stern to even his partisan constituents.

The country has lost important characteristics of good governance, by the
excessive pandering to the lobby for illegals.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Yeah, but there are times when a leader needs to step up, get above the
election calculus, speak straight and stern to even his partisan constituents.

The country has lost important characteristics of good governance, by the
excessive pandering to the lobby for illegals.

On this issue, Obama behavior has certainly not been a profile in courage. He initially had changing the 2008 law as part of his proposal, but punted when those to Pelosi's left went nuts. This pandering is no different, however, to the constant pandering done by Boehner to the fire-breathers in his caucus.

EDIT:

Here's some leadership for you, for better or worse.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...r-adviser-says

[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Politics is about the acquisition and maintenance of power, often done by rewarding your supporters and punishing your enemies. It's no secret that most politicians are far more concerned about their next election than the country at large, though I think it's worse in the House than anywhere else due to their short terms.

When are they leaving? I hope they leave soon.

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November '14 is the next election. It's pretty unlikely that the Dems would take the house though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_o..._United_States