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07-26-2014, 08:18 AM
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When is the GOP going to stop misusing all this money for frivolous BS and get on with conducting the real business of the day?
The House Rules Committee Democrats were correct. The taxpayers have witnessed House Republicans waste tens of millions of taxpayer dollars on stunts like seven Benghazi investigations, Darrell Issa’s IRS witch hunt, repeated Obamacare investigations, the DOMA lawsuit, and thousands of hours of employee manpower wasted fulfilling Republican requests for information that they already have.
The only thing that House Republicans seem able to do efficiently is waste taxpayer money. Speaker Boehner said that he wouldn’t give President Obama a blank check on funding for the humanitarian crisis on the border, but he has given himself a blank check when it comes to his lawsuit.
Republicans tout themselves as the party of fiscal conservatism, but it is Democrats who are demanding fiscal accountability from Boehner. Earlier this week Democrats demanded transparency from Boehner on the cost of the outside attorneys that he will be hiring for his lawsuit. Today’s letter took things a step beyond and demanded that Republicans let the taxpayers know how much money Republicans are planning on spending on this lawsuit.
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07-26-2014, 10:08 AM
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If our resident Teapublicans can't comprehend this simple economic analysis the mass of them are not going to alter their concept of reality.
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07-26-2014, 10:20 AM
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Impeachment proceedings against Obama would be manna from heaven for the Democrats.
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07-26-2014, 10:22 AM
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If our resident Teapublicans can't comprehend this simple economic analysis the mass of them are not going to alter their concept of reality.
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07-26-2014, 11:30 AM
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Impeachment proceedings against Obama would be manna from heaven for the Democrats.
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Indeed it would. I very seriously want to see Boner do impeachment, he will look as stupid as Noot did. Of course Noot was having an affair while he was trying to impeach Clinton for one, gotta love the hypocrisy. Hmm, I wonder if ol Noot ever got over his sister being gay.
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07-26-2014, 11:36 AM
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I am not an impeachment expert, but I believe the house needs to get a majority vote which is just bringing up the charges, like an indictment. The senate then has to have a vote 2/3 to convict. The case would be presided over by John Roberts, and I just don't see it happening, especially since the SCOTUS upheld the ACA to begin with.
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I think it is more than a vote. I think the president has to have done something criminal.
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07-26-2014, 11:44 AM
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Does an impeachment vote in the Senate have to get past Reid and a cloture vote?
What these idiots forget is that almost everyone wanted Nixon gone.....the whole country both Democrats and Republicans were upset.
You can't impeach without overwhelming popular support for such an action. Obama is not Richard Nixon and this is the type of stunt that only disloyal opposition factions in developing nations routinely endeavor in. It is a third rail that should only be used in extreme circumstances....like Watergate.
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07-26-2014, 11:59 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeach..._United_States
I don't know about cloture but as MPHolland pointed out that it takes 67 Senators to convict. That'll never happen in Obama's case.
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07-26-2014, 12:05 PM
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Quote:
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Impeachment proceedings against Obama would be manna from heaven for the Democrats.
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Indeed it would. I very seriously want to see Boner do impeachment, he will look as stupid as Noot did. Of course Noot was having an affair while he was trying to impeach Clinton for one, gotta love the hypocrisy. Hmm, I wonder if ol Noot ever got over his sister being gay.
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07-26-2014, 01:15 PM
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I think it is more than a vote. I think the president has to have done something criminal.
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Well, here's this thing--the Constitution says 'high crimes or (again high) misdemeanors. But how high is high? That's an opinion, settled by vote of the senate.
Now suppose the counts clearly contain no crime at all, just a vague "failed to see that the laws are faithfully executed" or something. And suppose the senate votes to convict anyway. I don't see that the President has any recourse--he's got to go. I mean, one can imagine him defying the vote and trying an appeal to the Supreme Count, but that takes us into very strange Constitutional waters indeed, and plunges us into terrible disorder as everyone argues over whether to obey the President or not. I don't think any responsible President would go there.
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