Israel has invaded Gaza...

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I can make a much better case that you hate Palestinians. You are projecting your own hate and death-lust onto me. I don't want anyone killed.

Another strawman from the Jew hater. I'm ripping Hamas for setting up the deaths of innocent Palestinians you fucking idiot. Your posts support the killing of children & women BECAUSE they are Jews. As a matter of fact, I think the idea of killing children gives a warm feeling you sick SOB.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Glue & rubber have a use, your opinions don't.

Humorous, I'll grant you, but still an overall attempt at deflection due to an ongoing inability to intellectually rationalize ANY position unilaterally supporting Israel.

[piece-itpete]

My how this thread has come along. DJ I don't think these folks here are anti-Semites. DQ seems like a good guy even if his beard is a little long.

Nice try Bob

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Don't feel guilty pete. Everybody blames the Jews.

But not during Brotherhood Week

Originally Posted by finnbow

If an occupying force is justified in annihilating resistance within a walled-off ghetto (which Gaza certainly is by any definition), I suppose folks who support Israel's current action should also endorse Nazi actions in putting down the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (Germans suffered 110 dead while ghetto occupants suffered 13,000 dead). The ratio isn't that far off the Israeli vs. Palestinian body counts in the current Gaza conflict. You can't have it both ways.

If Gaza was truly a 'walled off ghetto' they wouldn't have rockets to fire. And I notice that the Israelis have NOT wiped it out, and that Hamas uses the people it protects and represents as human shields. I'm sorry Finn, the Nazi analogy is just plain stupid.

Originally Posted by finnbow

I understand full well the dangers of any Nazi analogy, but there are undeniable similarities between the two.

To wit, this just in:

GAZA CITY — A U.N.-run school crowded with Palestinian evacuees in the northern part of the Gaza Strip came under shelling on Thursday, leaving at least 15 people dead and more than 100 wounded, Palestinian officials said.

Several shells hit the main building and courtyard of the elementary school run by the U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in Beit Hanoun, witnesses and Palestinian officials said. They said the school was filled with women and children who had fled their homes to escape more than two weeks of fighting between Israel and Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist group that runs the Gaza Strip.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...6ed_story.html

No matter what you do, don't look at Allied actions during WW2 - it turns out we're all just like Nazis.

Pete

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Humorous, I'll grant you, but still an overall attempt at deflection due to an ongoing inability to intellectually rationalize ANY position unilaterally supporting Israel.

The only thing I support is the extermination of Hamas & all the rest of the Muslim Brotherhood franchises.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Another strawman from the Jew hater. I'm ripping Hamas for setting up the deaths of innocent Palestinians you fucking idiot. Your posts support the killing of children & women BECAUSE they are Jews. As a matter of fact, I think the idea of killing children gives a warm feeling you sick SOB.

Is it too much to ask for the slightest little quote in support of this slander? Or is there no difference between imagination and reality in your mind?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

The only thing I support is the extermination of Hamas & all the rest of the Muslim Brotherhood franchises.

Seriously?

Seriously?

Did you just use the word "extermination" related to human beings?

And people keep wondering why the -- completely applicable and accurate -- Nazi comparisons keep appearing.

Godwin's Law, like any law, exists only under interpretation. In our case(s), it clearly does not apply.

"There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law. It is considered poor form to raise such a comparison arbitrarily with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized corollary that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's law will be unsuccessful.[9]

Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Nazis – often referred to as "playing the Hitler card". The law and its corollaries would not apply to discussions covering known mainstays of Nazi Germany such as genocide, eugenics, or racial superiority, nor, more debatably, to a discussion of other totalitarian regimes or ideologies, if that was the explicit topic of conversation, since a Nazi comparison in those circumstances may be appropriate, in effect committing the fallacist's fallacy. Whether it applies to humorous use or references to oneself is open to interpretation, since this would not be a fallacious attack against a debate opponent."

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Is it too much to ask for the slightest little quote in support of this slander? Or is there no difference between imagination and reality in your mind?

Slander? You don't even know what the word means. How did I cost you any money or future profits? Where are the damages you fucking idiot??? Lets see them.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Seriously?

Seriously?

Did you just use the word "extermination" related to human beings?

And people keep wondering why the -- completely applicable and accurate -- Nazi comparisons keep appearing.

Godwin's Law, like any law, exists only under interpretation. In our case(s), it clearly does not apply.

Hamas uses the word all the time and you never bring that up.
Just admit it, just like Bana said, you HATE JEWS & want them all dead.

[piece-itpete]

I wanted to point out to the folks backing Israel's actions that 'we' (the American people)often sympathize with the underdog. I can understand this, and the plight of the regular Palestinian folks is terrible. It may be partly their own and their allies own doing but they are raised to believe it. As such I think it does behoove Israel to take the high ground. I should say I believe they often do but we need to err on the side of caution. I also believe they have a 100% right to stop the rocket attacks.

I heard a bit on NPR this AM, that the number of Jews leaving France is increasing dramatically. The reason offered was the rise of anti Semitic levels. Particularly the last couple attacks, which were perpetrated by French nationals who had come back from serving Jihad in the ME.

Shocker?

Pete

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Hamas uses the word all the time and you never bring that up.

An interesting point and one to be openly discussed once Israel ceases to illegally occupy Palestinian lands.

When it comes to the balance of power in this crisis between Palestine and Israel, Israelis are the executioners, the aggressors, the occupiers, the settlers, and Palestinians are the true owners of (most of) the available land.

Math since 1947 is easy to read on a map.