Israel has invaded Gaza...

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The general ill will generated by Palestinian extremists with plane hijacking and suicide bombers has somewhat dissipated while things can only get worse for support of Israel's position and policies absent another irrational Palestinian outrage like Munich '72, for which I have not let them off my hook.

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It has dissipated to some degree, but Israel still uses the Palestinian's
past action effectively especially when she Israel has powerful friends in the media.

The recurrent firing of these ineffective rockets makes no sense.

It only gives Israel an excuse to come in with heavy weapons. Luckily it
is not someone like the butcher Sharon in power.

Palestinians are going to end up like the North American Indians. Israel is all the time searching for new sources of Jewish immigrants.

[Rajoo]

A would be GOP presidential candidate, Marco Rubio has spoken in support of Israel.

https://plus.google.com/107866100316...ts/fNr4DumtRPB

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

A would be GOP presidential candidate, Marco Rubio has spoken in support of Israel.

https://plus.google.com/107866100316...ts/fNr4DumtRPB

The link is taking forever to load... anyhow.

He is aiming early for the Jewish money and support.
I hope he does not make the same "occupied" mistake like Christie.

[Dondilion]

By their reaction, It looks like the Israelis did not expect any deaths from their ground invasion.

I guess we can expect mission creep, as feared by Kerry.

http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-mood-t...201153206.html

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

A would be GOP presidential candidate, Marco Rubio has spoken in support of Israel.

https://plus.google.com/107866100316...ts/fNr4DumtRPB

If you're from Florida and don't bow to God's Chosen, you're fucked before you even start.

[Zeke]

From the article: "Despite the absence of panic Monday, it is clear that if soldiers continue to be killed at this rate, the flexibility enjoyed by Netanyahu to date will likely be replaced by a growing sense of urgency to stop the casualties. Many Israeli leftists will demand an end to the operation. Hard-liners will demand more radical action, up to and including a takeover of Gaza. That will add to the already mounting pressure from an outside world horrified by the carnage on the Palestinian side."

Potentially UGLY.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Zeke

From the article: "Despite the absence of panic Monday, it is clear that if soldiers continue to be killed at this rate, the flexibility enjoyed by Netanyahu to date will likely be replaced by a growing sense of urgency to stop the casualties. Many Israeli leftists will demand an end to the operation. Hard-liners will demand more radical action, up to and including a takeover of Gaza. That will add to the already mounting pressure from an outside world horrified by the carnage on the Palestinian side."

Potentially UGLY.

In the bubble of Tel Aviv, people just see Gaza as a nuisance that needs periodic attention from the exterminator without recognizing that they're the very reason that Gaza is the way it is.

[piece-itpete]

Perhaps if the Moslem states over there granted their Palestinian brothers citizenship over there a la 'Law of Return' there'd be a greater chance of peace, and they'd be able to leave the 'Israeli' prison of Gaza (apparently with Egyptian jailers).

Maybe Israel wouldn't be their jailer if it wasn't attacked in 67. But they 'invaded' Gaza.

I don't think Israel is perfect, oh no no. But they were sure dealt a poor hand and they're playing with cheats and cutthroats.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

OK I'll stop immediately. And yes indeed...underneath all the alleged calmness observed in Haifa and Tel Aviv...they're worried, all Israelis are worried about their existence, and they're worried every day.

Prejudice against Jews (risking the Godwin's Law meme here), appears to be persistent throughout the history of left-leaning political web forums as well. And they're all pretty much the same. Twelve page circle-jerks...it's them, no it's them, no it's both...etc., etc., for another half-dozen pages until everybody tires of it and goes on to the next twelve pages of benghazi or the IRS.

Of course Israel is a little different...it's the existence of an historically and currently oppressed people and not who's favorite vote whore is good or bad.

So as far as Israel is concerned, I make my statement...and get the fuck out of it.

Oh the far right hates the Jews too, I doubt I've seen such vileness on any other topic.

Pete

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Perhaps if the Moslem states over there granted their Palestinian brothers citizenship over there a la 'Law of Return' there'd be a greater chance of peace, and they'd be able to leave the 'Israeli' prison of Gaza (apparently with Egyptian jailers).

Maybe Israel wouldn't be their jailer if it wasn't attacked in 67. But they 'invaded' Gaza.

I don't think Israel is perfect, oh no no. But they were sure dealt a poor hand and they're playing with cheats and cutthroats.
Pete

How poor a hand?

They have the powerful backing of the US.
They are still building settlements despite what the US says.

They are recipient of 3b dollars US per year plus other donation from some
of the wealthiest people in the world.

The collapse of the soviets benefited them more than anyone else.

They still have a great hand.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

How poor a hand?

They have the powerful backing of the US.
They are still building settlements despite what the US says.

They are recipient of 3b dollars US per year plus other donation from some
of the wealthiest people in the world.

The collapse of the soviets benefited them more than anyone else.

They still have a great hand.

The Jews perhaps have a good hand now. But it's not the hand they were dealt...which is what pete is talking about. Israeli Jews were dealt one of the most shit hands in modern history.

So, I guess I'm just gonna have to say this one more time...the Jews of Europe were left hanging out to dry and twist in the wind by the rest of the world for over a decade. And at the end of the war, the rest of the world was kind enough to provide them a useless piece of scrub land surrounded by the only people on earth who hate them more than the nazis did. Who woulda thought that Jews would refuse to allow themselves to be exterminated after what they had been through in Europe. Surely not the fucking League of Nations and their Mandate for Palestine, eh?

Much to the surprise and consternation of the rest of the world, Jews rose up. Jews...can ya believe it? Jews turned shit land into a relative paradise and did it democratically. Sure...the Jews have received plenty of financial assistance...but as opposed to the poor Kuwaitis and the poor Iraqis and the poor Afghanis or the poor South Vietnamese...not once has this country or any other send a single pound of flesh and blood to fight by their side for their existence. And the Jews never expected it, or asked for it. Of course, what the Jews of Israel get, is shit for it.

So...frustrated by their refusal to die...the rest of the world has tagged the Jews as the new neighborhood bully. Tagged them as "nazis" if you can fucking believe that. Fine...just fine with me. And probably fine with them as well. Far as I'm concerned, nobody has jack shit to say about what the Jews of Israel have done or are doing to avoid another holocaust.

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.
- Tom Lehrer