The Big Lawsuit

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by VanishingPoi

Controlling the border is an absolute joke. If it could be done at all, I promise it would have happened in Texas first! When has any border anywhere in the world been controlled?

Remember, it is best to offer impossible to follow advice, then you are seldom wrong.

[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Remember, it is best to offer impossible to follow advice, then you are seldom wrong.

Now that I understand. I heard Rick Perry this morning and could not stop laughing at the stupidity. That tells me everything I need to know about the stupidity of Texans.

Exceptin, maybe he got govnerrrr cuz of doe's lyin-cheatin-republican scoundrels.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Controlling the border is not the issue with these Central American kids, though it remains the unending refrain from the GOP. More border patrols would simply mean that we hasten these kids' trip to the detention centers. WTF good would that do?

Its not just about the kids, first of all. While the DHS is busy pulled in multiple directions to manage the kids, the border becomes that much more pourus for both unaccompanied minors and non-minors alike. Second, we can control access so that the human traffickers, coyotes or whatever the hell they're called are discouraged by the site of law enforcement and turn back.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by VanishingPoi

Controlling the border is an absolute joke. If it could be done at all, I promise it would have happened in Texas first! When has any border anywhere in the world been controlled?

East Germany/West Germany. I lived in Fulda, Germany for 3 years, 15 miles from the border fence. I was responsible for managing the construction of American defenses on our side of it. I've flew up and down this border on numerous occasions, once with SecDef Caspar Weinberger.

If we want that level of border security, we'd need to be willing to put Claymore mines on a double fence with a minefield between, along with a several mile exclusion zone with constant helicopter and foot patrols with shoot-on-sight orders.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_G..._German_border

Simply mumbling the constant refrain of "seal the border" is all the worthless, know-nothing GOP has. They sure don't have a clue. BTW, despite these fortifications, some East Germans still escaped. Also, our border with Mexico is over 8 times as long as the Inner-German border was.

[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by finnbow

East Germany/West Germany. I lived in Fulda, Germany for 3 years, 15 miles from the border fence. I was responsible for managing the construction of American defenses on our side of it. I've flew up and down this border on numerous occasions, once with SecDef Caspar Weinberger.

If we want that level of border security, we'd need to be willing to put Claymore mines on a double fence with a minefield between, along with a several mile exclusion zone with constant helicopter and foot patrols with shoot-on-sight orders.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_G..._German_border

Simply mumbling the constant refrain of "seal the border" is all the worthless, know-nothing GOP has. They sure don't have a clue. BTW, despite these fortifications, some East Germans still escaped.

Yes, and wasn't that a much smaller border? Our border with Mexico must be at least double that (I think).

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by VanishingPoi

Yes, and wasn't that a much smaller border? Our border with Mexico must be at least double that (I think).

It was about 250 miles, not 2,000 like ours.

[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by whell

Its not just about the kids, first of all. While the DHS is busy pulled in multiple directions to manage the kids, the border becomes that much more pourus for both unaccompanied minors and non-minors alike. Second, we can control access so that the human traffickers, coyotes or whatever the hell they're called are discouraged by the site of law enforcement and turn back.

Law enforcement on a 2,000 mile border through all kinds of terrain? Who gonna pay for it with what taxes (whose taxes)?

[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It was about 250 miles, not 2,000 like ours.

Wow, thank you. So--we really need to be a fascist country to control our borders. Hmmmmm......

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by VanishingPoi

Wow, thank you. So--we really need to be a fascist country to control our borders. Hmmmmm......

East Germany was Communist, just like Obama.

[donquixote99]

By the time you get that totalitarian, the only difference between Communist and Fascist is the particular lies included in the 'official state mythology.'

People laughed at the joke that the East Germans were 'Nazis without the charm" because there was some definite aptness to it.