|
|
|
|
We appreciate your help
in keeping this site going.
|
|

07-12-2014, 11:10 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,547
|
|
|
Hey no one cares about Obamacare anymore.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
|

07-12-2014, 11:13 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,547
|
|
|
You think the idiots would co-opt Latino support by bringing the Immigration reform bill forward.
Then again the average Bagger has never heard of Bismarck. Or was it Bismark? The guy with the pointy helmet that brought health care to Germany way before anyone else.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
|

07-12-2014, 11:27 AM
|
 |
Admin
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
Posts: 38,333
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeamOn
This is yet another manufactured crisis for political purposes. The intent of the GOP is to continue to paint Obama as an ineffective president.
There are three issues in play here. One is the spike in influx of immigrants not of Mexican origin, the 2008 law that GWB signed, and now the Obama request of $3.7 billion in emergency funding.
Democrats are opposed to revising the law, under the law the administration cannot arbitrarily deport, without additional funds the government will not have the resources to handle the influx. GOP house will amend this funding request to death, one can bet on it. So there never will be an answer, was never meant to be and it is another on the GOP we are gonna get you list.
My guess is that the GOP is hoping that any anti-Obama fervor they can whip up will only help them in the mid-term elections. Only time would tell. One thing for certain, the GOP are about to alienate the entire Latino voting block because the detainees will continue to be miserable as they await legal processing.
|
There may be a serious political backlash against the 'pubbies for acting miserly in the face this humanitarian crisis. Even Sen. McConnell was urging Boehner to advance this smallish spending bill. The $72,000 figure per refugee being bandied about here is a red herring. A substantial amount of this spending bill goes to border security and firefighting.
|

07-12-2014, 11:31 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,547
|
|
|
One day the GOP will realize that the only way to get the Klown Kar back on the Main Street of American respectability and electability is to garner support among non-whites.
You gotta take the keys away from Ted Cruz and Rush Limbaugh and hand them over to someone like Jeb Bush or another normal conservative. I guess another 8 years of Democratic rule may wake them up like FDR and Truman did two generations ago.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
|

07-12-2014, 12:27 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sierras
Posts: 15,280
|
|
|
The way I see it, this is just a new cause for the do nothing" congress. And this is safe for the GOP since no compromise is really possible nor does the GOP want to hand any new money over to Obama. The baggers will never stand for it and will use it against their own.
__________________
The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. Thomas Jefferson
|

07-12-2014, 01:33 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 13,135
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeamOn
This is yet another manufactured crisis for political purposes. The intent of the GOP is to continue to paint Obama as an ineffective president.
|
If its a "manufactured crisis", why does the Prez want over $3 billion in emergency appropriations to fix it?
|

07-12-2014, 02:08 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,547
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
If its a "manufactured crisis", why does the Prez want over $3 billion in emergency appropriations to fix it?
|
think about it Einstein:
If Obama gets what he wants it is a political victory for him as well as easing the humanitarian crisis.
If he doesn't get it the bill then Boehner and the Baggers just dig themselves deeper into the pit they have dug for themselves: would rather play politics than put the nation first plus the negative impact on the Latino perception of the GOP will help the Democrats in the future.
Obama may not win in this game but the Democrats will certainly not lose.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
|

07-12-2014, 02:14 PM
|
 |
Resident octogenarian
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 20,860
|
|
|
There was talk about housing some of the children here in western MD and already the mayor and a GOPer are screaming NIMBY.
Suffer the little children - and we will show them just what suffering is.
__________________
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
|

07-12-2014, 03:30 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,547
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
There was talk about housing some of the children here in western MD and already the mayor and a GOPer are screaming NIMBY.
Suffer the little children - and we will show them just what suffering is.
|
Most of the people in Murrieta are commuters working in LA or San Diego who are sweating $2000 mortgages on McMansions....
no one is really involved in the protests except for some outside agitators and angry people with nothing better to do. And most of the locals that are yelling are probably tied to the military industrial complex. There were more police yesterday than protesters.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
|

07-13-2014, 12:29 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sierras
Posts: 15,280
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
If its a "manufactured crisis", why does the Prez want over $3 billion in emergency appropriations to fix it?
|
http://mediamatters.org/research/201...anitari/199864
The surge is real and is overloading the system (DHS) and funds are needed to house the detainees awaiting deportation to their homelands.
__________________
The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. Thomas Jefferson
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:39 AM.
|