How about a thread about PC

[icenine]

However does PC (or the violation of PC) require an audience to exist?
If I course the lightning storm, but there is no storm present, is the storm offended?

If you utter offense against your neighbor, but they do not hear you, did the violation of political correctness exist?

that is the deeper question

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by icenine

However does PC (or the violation of PC) require an audience to exist?
If I course the lightning storm, but there is no storm present, is the storm offended?

If you utter offense against your neighbor, but they do not hear you, did the violation of political correctness exist?

that is the deeper question

I guess that depends on what your definition of PC is. I believe it does require an audience. In my view being PC is an action that requires conscious though, not a belief system that would occur naturally as an accumulation of your life experience. I guess put simply, your beliefs may be PC, but PC isn't a belief.

[donquixote99]

When you're by yourself, there is only the battle with yourself.

[d-ray657]

I recently heard again Randy Newman's song "Short People." The hubbub surrounding it was an example of political correctness carried to absurdity. The song itself was a wonderful satire on the attitudes reflected in any sort of prejudice, but many people took it as a mean-spirited song. Many of those missed the point that Randy Newman is indeed a short person. More importantly, they missed the point of the song that ridiculed the type of attitude reflected in the lyrics.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Ike Bana]

Back in the day there was this older black guy I worked with...Sam Charles was his name. I remember one day, back in the late 60's, Sam went on a rant at work..."What's this Afro-American shit? I don't play that. I ain't no African!!!" Pissed off some of the younger black guys on the shop floor. And every time James Brown's "Say It Loud...I'm Black and I'm Proud!" came on the radio, Sam would crank it up.

And then in 1989 Jesse Jackson saw a poem on a "Black History" calendar and he decided that his people were no longer "black" but "African American". The media bought it because it was Jesse. And ever since, depending on who I happened to be with, to one level or another, I was nervous using either term. What's a well-intentioned white boy to do???

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Back in the day there was this older black guy I worked with...Sam Charles was his name. I remember one day, back in the late 60's, Sam went on a rant at work..."What's this Afro-American shit? I don't play that. I ain't no African!!!" Pissed off some of the younger black guys on the shop floor. And every time James Brown's "Say It Loud...I'm Black and I'm Proud!" came on the radio, Sam would crank it up.

And then in 1989 Jesse Jackson saw a poem on a "Black History" calendar and he decided that his people were no longer "black" but "African American". The media bought it because it was Jesse. And ever since, depending on who I happened to be with, to one level or another, I was nervous using either term. What's a well-intentioned white boy to do???

Take your best shot at being well-intentioned. If someone objects to a noun or something, apologize sincerely and assure them you meant no offense.

If they stay pissed it's not your fault.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Back in the day there was this older black guy I worked with...Sam Charles was his name. I remember one day, back in the late 60's, Sam went on a rant at work..."What's this Afro-American shit? I don't play that. I ain't no African!!!" Pissed off some of the younger black guys on the shop floor. And every time James Brown's "Say It Loud...I'm Black and I'm Proud!" came on the radio, Sam would crank it up.

And then in 1989 Jesse Jackson saw a poem on a "Black History" calendar and he decided that his people were no longer "black" but "African American". The media bought it because it was Jesse. And ever since, depending on who I happened to be with, to one level or another, I was nervous using either term. What's a well-intentioned white boy to do???

"Black is beautiful" and African-American is a recent immigrant.
And Jesse Jackson has been called a race baiter.

[Pio1980]

I don't know what the correct au courant ref is for Americans of mainly African genetic heritage. I try to just follow the principle of common courtesy and respect and that is generally understood in my daily affairs.

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Take your best shot at being well-intentioned. If someone objects to a noun or something, apologize sincerely and assure them you meant no offense.

If they stay pissed it's not your fault.

I've pretty much let African-American go...I suppose mostly because Jesse. And the fact that all of us Americans are actually African-Americans. Mitochondrial Eve from Africa is, after all...everybody's genealogical mom.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I've pretty much let African-American go...I suppose mostly because Jesse. And the fact that all of us Americans are actually African-Americans. Mitochondrial Eve from Africa is, after all...everybody's genealogical mom.

Truth, that. Hey mom!

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