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Old 07-06-2014, 10:22 AM
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Of course you do.

You need to believe that in order to maintain your rationalizations.
Resorting to -5 tactics, huh?
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:42 AM
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Resorting to -5 tactics, huh?
OK MP.

This is your lucky day.

I'm going to tell you why you are on my shit list.

It's because of this:

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It seems to me that all the people who were so overjoyed with the SCOTUS when they ruled on the ACA are the same people who are now saying how fucked up the SCOTUS is because of the Hobby Lobby case.
I don't know of anybody on the left that was "overjoyed" about the ruling on the ACA. Not me for sure, I hate the fucking ACA. It's a giveaway to the insurance companies and the Healthcare Industrial Complex in general.

The only reason I'm even holding my nose and taking a bite of that giant shit sandwich is in the hopes that it will somehow it will be a baby step towards single payer.

As for Justice Roberts vote, I don't trust that fucker as far as I can throw a 1958 Buick Engine block. I think he probably voted the way he did because the Health Insurance Companies told him to. After all they are going to make hundreds of billions in increased revenues from it.


Next time you take it upon yourself to take a cheap shot at the left, remember, I'm watching your ass.
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:58 AM
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If you weren't one of the overjoyed folk, I don't understand what your purpose was for commenting to begin with, but aside from all that we at least have some common ground here. I don't like the ACA either and would much rather see single payer. I don't even think that the ACA should have been able to see the SCOTUS yet. There is too much to comprehend in it to even deem whether or not it was constitutional, yet they did it anyway and their rationale sucked.

I also feel the same as you do about Roberts. As far as you watching my ass, that's OK. I am not as far right as you would like to believe. I have no issues with gay folk.
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:14 AM
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If you weren't one of the overjoyed folk, I don't understand what your purpose was for commenting to begin with
Because their were no overjoyed folk.

At least not on the left.

Find me one poster on the left here that would describe his or her reaction as "overjoyed".

There were probably a lot of Champagne corks popping in big Insurance Company boardrooms however.
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Old 07-06-2014, 12:45 PM
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If you weren't one of the overjoyed folk, I don't understand what your purpose was for commenting to begin with, but aside from all that we at least have some common ground here. I don't like the ACA either and would much rather see single payer. I don't even think that the ACA should have been able to see the SCOTUS yet. There is too much to comprehend in it to even deem whether or not it was constitutional, yet they did it anyway and their rationale sucked.

I also feel the same as you do about Roberts. As far as you watching my ass, that's OK. I am not as far right as you would like to believe. I have no issues with gay folk.
And your cavalier attitude about gays separates you from your right-winger brethren? Not in any particularly significant way that I've been able to see.

The whole premise of this fucked-up thread was you pidgeonholing anybody who was happy with the ACA decision and pissed about the Hobby Lobby decision. That's just the kind of black and white BS that I would expect from a right-winger who thinks he's something special because he has no "issues" with gay folk.

How's about you get a little more specific about "gay folk" eh man? Because all I hear in this comment is "tolerance". So you tolerate gay folk. How bloody magnanimous of you. Anybody else you're tolerating this week that differentiates you in any substantive way from 5 below or DJ?

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And your cavalier attitude about gays separates you from your right-winger brethren?
Yeah, I noticed that too, but didn't say anything.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:35 PM
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And your cavalier attitude about gays separates you from your right-winger brethren? Not in any particularly significant way that I've been able to see.

The whole premise of this fucked-up thread was you pidgeonholing anybody who was happy with the ACA decision and pissed about the Hobby Lobby decision. That's just the kind of black and white BS that I would expect from a right-winger who thinks he's something special because he has no "issues" with gay folk.

How's about you get a little more specific about "gay folk" eh man? Because all I hear in this comment is "tolerance". So you tolerate gay folk. How bloody magnanimous of you. Anybody else you're tolerating this week that differentiates you in any substantive way from 5 below or DJ?

But during National Brotherhood Week
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Yeah, I noticed that too, but didn't say anything.
Somebody piss in your Cheerios this morning? If neither of you could see it as a humorous reference to Tom watching my ass you really need to get out a little more and find something to get you a little less uptight.
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Hoo BOY!

Lighten up, Fellas.

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Old 07-06-2014, 01:47 PM
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Somebody piss in your Cheerios this morning? If neither of you could see it as a humorous reference to Tom watching my ass you really need to get out a little more and find something to get you a little less uptight.
Your comment about having "no issues" with gays is what I was referring to. If you're trying to wriggle out of that by suggesting that the whole thing was a joke...I ain't buying it for a second.

So...how's about you man up and provide a response. Since I'm happy about the ACA decision and pissed about the Hobby Lobby decision...that identifies me as a hypocrite?

It's a simple question...all it requires is a "yes it does make you a hypocrite" or "no it doesn't make you a hypocrite."

If I sound pissy, it's because you started this whole thing with your fucked-up over generalized and lightly thought out personal comments.

And save the interpersonal advice in your last sentence for your children or your partner, or anybody else who makes a habit of being interested in it. In my neighborhood, unsolicited advice is about as valuable as a bucket of tepid spit.
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Hoo BOY!

Lighten up, Fellas.

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Nope. Not me Dave. Call me a hypocrite and you better have something you can back it up...as opposed to four posts full of dodging.
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