Supremes vote for religious bigotry

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Inalienable Rights

Outweigh Choice as choice is not a right...

So Americans that want their rights upheld are racist bigots?

Don't like abortions? Don't have one.
Don't like contraceptives. Don't use them.

It's nobody's business but the patient and the doctor.
The "rights" you seem to think you have are all about denying somebody else's rights. In this case...it's the medical confidentiality rights of others that you want to deny.

It's none of your fucking business...you hate women, so just get your greasy, blackhead infested nose out of their reproductive organs.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

I was never a G W Bush fan, but that didn't stop Finn from telling me that W was " my guy" in another thread.

You voted for Gore in 2000? Naw, I suspect you're a Ron Paul kinda guy.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

It's none of your fucking business...you hate women, so just get your greasy, blackhead infested nose out of their reproductive organs.

I'd be all to happy to comply, but folks keep trying to drag my wallet into areas that you claim are none of my business. If they don't want it to be my business, then they can pay for their own contraception.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

I'd be all to happy to comply, but folks keep trying to drag my wallet into areas that you claim are none of my business. If they don't want it to be my business, then they can pay for their own contraception.

But you would happily accept hem paying for your little blue pills hypocrite.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

I'd be all to happy to comply, but folks keep trying to drag my wallet into areas that you claim are none of my business. If they don't want it to be my business, then they can pay for their own contraception.

What a steaming pile of hypocritical horseshit.

Do you have employer based insurance? Did you ever have employer based insurance? Because if you do, or if you did, you are, or were, pumping your boss's premium dollars share and your own premium dollars share into the pot that pays for legal covered abortions and prescription contraceptives. If didn't have employer based insurance and bought your own insurance all those premium dollars you were pumping to your health care coverage went into the same pot.

And...the hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars of government corporate welfare that goes into the insurance industry and the health care industry in this country goes into the pot that provides abortion and contraceptive coverage.

But now...now that there's a chance for you to deny some poor women the same care that middle-class and rich women, including the thousands of rich conservative women utilizing abortion services and contraceptive services that their insurance provides, enjoy every day in this country...now, all of a sudden, it's a fucking problem for you and your fucking wallet. Now it's suddenly your fucking business.

You and your fucking wallet can take a fucking hike. Go be a hypocrite somewhere else.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

What a steaming pile of hypocritical horseshit.

You and your fucking wallet can take a fucking hike. Go be a hypocrite somewhere else.

Originally Posted by merrylander

But you would happily accept hem paying for your little blue pills hypocrite.

What is hypocritical here? The Hobby Lobby decision has done NOTHING to restrict access to contraceptive medication for women. Even after this ruling, Hobby Lobby will continue to provide such coverage under their insurance plan. They only objected to provided coverage to specific meds like the so-called morning after pill. They still, for example, offer coverage for birth control pills.

So, you may go cast your claims of hypocrisy somewhere else. Maybe your local mirror perhaps?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

What is hypocritical here? The Hobby Lobby decision has done NOTHING to restrict access to contraceptive medication for women. Even after this ruling, Hobby Lobby will continue to provide such coverage under their insurance plan. They only objected to provided coverage to specific meds like the so-called morning after pill. They still, for example, offer coverage for birth control pills.

So, you may go cast your claims of hypocrisy somewhere else. Maybe your local mirror perhaps?

No because It would appear that I am better versed in the subject than you.

Contraceptive pills have a strange side effect. If a couple decides yes lets have another child and she stops the pill they are quite likely to have a multiple birth of four to even eight, not quite the single child they wanted, the IUD is better in this regard.

Some women my even develop allergies to the pill and other means and so the method of taking her temperature* is used and can fail so the morning after pill comes in handy.

It is strange how in trying to get pregnant you learn a lot about why it has not worked and why. I got quite an education in my first marriage. Not to mention some interesting medical bills as Single Payer was not yet on. Also got an interesting illustration of how women are regarded. When it was proposed that some surgery on my then wife (now ex) would possibly help the surgeon turned to me and asked for my permission. I looked at him in dis-belief and said "Ask her for Christ's sake she is the one going under the knife, I just have to pay your fee." I simply could not believe what he had asked. They still do not get the respect that is their due as human beings.

No the marriage did not break up because she could not have children because we simply adopted. It unfortunately was a case of two very young people thinking that marriage was where happiness was to be found and when it was not they started to look for someone to blame. Well guess who was nearest.

* commonly known as Vatican Roulette the Rrythm Method although the odds in roulette are better.

Oh and no I do not have any problems with the mirrors here, all they ever show me is a man who tries to be honest, and compassionate and fair, you might try it sometime.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

What is hypocritical here? The Hobby Lobby decision has done NOTHING to restrict access to contraceptive medication for women. Even after this ruling, Hobby Lobby will continue to provide such coverage under their insurance plan. They only objected to provided coverage to specific meds like the so-called morning after pill. They still, for example, offer coverage for birth control pills.

So, you may go cast your claims of hypocrisy somewhere else. Maybe your local mirror perhaps?

IUD's and RU-486 are both FDA-approved therapies with excellent safety records. Should your employer be able to pick and choose which FDA-approved therapies that your family is allowed to avail themselves of? A lot of religious people will say that it is "God's will" when somebody (including themselves) come down with a disease and will therefore defer/reject FDA-approved (and effective) treatment. Do you want to cede such decisions to your employer?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

IUD's and RU-486 are both FDA-approved therapies with excellent safety records. Should your employer be able to pick and choose which FDA-approved therapies that your family is allowed to avail themselves of? A lot of religious people will say that it is "God's will" when somebody (including themselves) come down with a disease and will therefore defer/reject FDA-approved (and effective) treatment. Do you want to cede such decisions to your employer?

Well, prayer is the cheap way out, so I can see many employers going that way.

"We offer all of our employees the 'We'll Pray for You' health insurance plan with the upgrade to 'Oh, well, I guess it was just Gods will.' clause."

It doesn't really work worth a damn, but the premiums are very attractive.

Dave

[icenine]

Originally Posted by CarlV

I was thinking maybe all the corporations may decide to go Christian Scientist. Scientists lol, you know the ones that will watch their children die of cancer because God wills it rather than seek the human help that this same God also gave us the ability to learn to save lives.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/08/06/us...n-science.html


Praise the Lord! Hallelujah!


Carl

Praise the Lord and count the increased profits !