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Old 06-04-2014, 01:26 AM
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I thought we were fighting a war against terrorists...? This government makes war as complicated as the tax code.
How come we had no prisoners of War?

We had detainies.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:28 AM
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I thought we were fighting a war against terrorists...? This government makes war as complicated as the tax code.
lol

War can only be declared on a country, terrorist are all over.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:37 AM
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lol

War can only be declared on a country, terrorist are all over.
They call members of terrorist organizations "enemy combatants".
If it is found that he was in the company of known terrorists, he's adhering to the enemy, and that's treason.

The bigger issue, of course, is the audacity to make such a crappy deal on the sly. As Dave said, something smells of fish, and you can't credibly say again that it's a blunder.
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Old 06-04-2014, 02:04 AM
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This is starting to look like swiftboating to me because the President has many enemies on the far right that cannot stand it when an African American president does good. Bottom line is that we rescued an American who is innocent until proven guilty in either a military or civilian court. I find it so hard to believe that inherent racism on the far right because of the President's color has created a political scandal just because we did the right thing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5440532.html

this is going to backfire. And even if I am wrong the accused needs his day in court.
Only the GOP could turn a POW's rescue into a political issue.
No Ice. Even Feinstein and other democrats think the president was wrong in the way he went about this trade. The real absudity is which prisoners he released, and now, by his own admission, there's a liklihood that they'll go back to fighting against us. They're heroes in the eyes of their countrymen. The Qatar "house arrest" is utter bullshit once again spinning from this administration. Meanwhile the Marine stuck in a Mexican jail for a wrong turn sits.
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Old 06-04-2014, 02:10 AM
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Thing is, and a former General (On CNN) just said what I was thinking; Whether Bergdahl is a deserter or not really doesn't make much difference. They would have gone after him anyways, even if it was just to arrest him and send him to court marshal. That would have happened under any C-in-C. The only thing that truly makes it controversial is that the president painted this clown as a hero in the Rose Garden, in front of the whole world. He shouldn't have done that.
Obama turned it into a political issue by that fiasco in the Rose Garden and then sending the liar, Susan Rice, out to declare him a hero.

He should have informed the various Congressional committees and maintained a low profile with the deserters return instead of him and the well known spinner, Susan Rice, attempting to make a hero out of him.

Why Obama would make such a poor decision is anyone's guess.
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Old 06-04-2014, 02:12 AM
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Anyone else think that if you wrapped a bandana around his dad's head he would look like the keynote speaker at the RLC shindig?
Stay on topic

Otherwise your just trolling
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:31 AM
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Say and think whatever but the facts will playout evidently. If it ends up five POW's were traded for a deserter/traitor who caused the deaths of fellow commands. Then were is the harm in getting him back home? Where he will be punished for these actions and the POW's did after all do time in prison. With the war ending should not POW's be repatriated?



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Old 06-04-2014, 07:15 AM
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Yes we should always bring them home but at the cost of five high level Taliban fighters?
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:20 AM
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Yes we should always bring them home but at the cost of five high level Taliban fighters?
So a life sentence without a trial in open court? We are trying to build a working relationship with the Tailban correct? Were they not captured at a time when they ruled the country? So were taken as POW's and with the end of our involvement something needed to be done.

I say let it play out. On the not notifying congress thing, really like anything can be accomplished of substance this year!



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Old 06-04-2014, 07:26 AM
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Say and think whatever but the facts will playout evidently. If it ends up five POW's were traded for a deserter/traitor who caused the deaths of fellow commands. Then were is the harm in getting him back home? Where he will be punished for these actions and the POW's did after all do time in prison. With the war ending should not POW's be repatriated?



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I saw the rormer JAG head on Newwshour last evening and was happy to see his calm, analytical approach and that this lad will be treated in accordane with our justice system.

A couple of points I noted; One of his former mates said that he had dropped all his kit and walked off. Yet in one of the first Taliban videos he was wearing full uniform and helmet.

He did not order out search parties so how is he responsible for any casualties?

There have been no end of warriors return home with PTSD, is there any reason to believe he could not have succumbed to PTSD in Afghanistan?

I for one (and I imagine many others posting here) have not the slightest idea what our people are going through and have gone through in that hellhole and to be honest I would rather not know.

If the 'leadership' had been in Afghanistan and not sitting in A/C offices in Florida we could have called in the heavies from Diego Suarez with bunker busters and gotten Obama at Tora Bora then called everyone home. Even better had the CIA not fiddled and farted about we would have had him with the cruise missiles.

People criticise POTUS for leadership, Ha! Given Congress, the CIA and FBI he would have as much luck herding cats. Given that we feed four feral cats I know firsthand what a futile exercise that can be.
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