How America Killed Its Middle Class

[bobabode]

Funny how the Wall St. Urinal calls that op ed piece of ginned up hyperbole news...

[Pio1980]

Anybody know how to play "follow the money"?

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[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Nope. Anybody decent play there?

I enjoyed several of the bands. Haim I really liked. They consist of three sisters from the San Fernando Valley. They're good. Arcade Fire closed the show and I thought they were good. Everyone in that band is a multi -instrumentalist and move around to different instruments throughout the show. Pharell Williams was good once he got out of rap mode and started singing. Neko Case, Elle Goulding, Lorde and Ingrid Michaelson were all very good. Seeing the Pet Shop Boys made me feel old.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bhunter

As opposed to what, the same old dusty trope of the downfall of the middle class perpetuated by the left. The progressive politicians that are knowingly using a poor indicator to demonize their opposition and drum up the emotions of their base. The paper I cited describes exactly why the left's position wrt to middle class stagnation ought be taken for what it is, namely, demagoguery.

You can argue the points in their paper, but it isn't fair to dismiss them just because their politics differ from yours.


PS: Did you watch the Coachella Festival? I think we need a thread on that in Of Topic.

Oh........demagoguery?

Are you telling me it's all in my head that everyone I know seems to be working for less reward than we were 20-30 years ago? That those who had a good retirement now have jack shit and struggle to live off of PBGC and SS? That I'm just believing in some left wing media perpetuated myth that my employer is cutting my hours as my reward for helping raise productivity? WTF, Brent?

My God. My countrymen are so deep up their own butts with their silly dueling ideologies.............

When are we going to snap out of this? When it takes a wheelbarrow full of twenty dollar bills to buy a can of Vienna Sausages? When three people have all the money and the rest of us have to beg their mercies?

Dave

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Anybody know how to play "follow the money"?

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Choose up a side and in a lot of cases it will likely lead you to the same place.

[BlueStreak]

Okay, I'll ask again;

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I just want to make it to retirement before some excessively ambitious a-hole decides he deserves my money more than I do. It looks like I'm losing ground and losing it fast.

Do any of you pontificating yak-a-lots have a suggestion that's not untethered and floating aimlessly in your personal ideologisphere?

Dave

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Reich's just old and was never all that great,

He's about my age actually.

Less than a year older.

Which means he's lived long enough to personally observe the deterioration of the middle class.

It's an obvious fact.

There is nothing to discuss.

The only question is why it's happening and how are we going to reverse it.

To try to argue that it's a myth is beyond ludicrous.

[bobabode]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Boudreaux Cato Institute? Phuck him and the horse he rode in on.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

He's about my age actually.

Less than a year older.

Which means he's lived long enough to personally observe the deterioration of the middle class.

It's an obvious fact.

There is nothing to discuss.

The only question is why it's happening and how are we going to reverse it.

To try to argue that it's a myth is beyond ludicrous.

WAAAAYYYYYYY beyond.

Dave

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

WAAAAYYYYYYY beyond.

Dave

Yeah, but that never stops the right from believing in shit that has no basis in truth.

Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?

Legitimate Rape?

Being Gay is a choice?

Tax cuts for the rich help the poor?

The list is endless.

They live in a very very strange world that has virtually no overlap with the real one.