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04-19-2014, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Chris, I doubt the people who made that video believe a word if it.... but you never know. The makers do realize, however, that there are a lot of Americans who are more than willing to believe the most outlandish things about the Obamas as long as they're unflattering or scandalous.
DJ and the Tar Baby are such people. Tough they're a minority here, they are a large one.
We are a nation of idiots.
Just as we see here with DJ and Tar Baby, the crazies have taken control of the debate. They barrage the rest of us with their moronic conspiracy theories and their racism. Up to a certain point, they're fairly easy to ignore but as they increase the volume (in both senses of the word) of their imbecilic hatred, other (saner) people feel compelled to respond in order to challenge, object to or ridicule the crazies.
That shifts the focus of the discussion. We end up talking about whether President Obama was born in Kenya instead of our foreign policy regarding the African continent. We end up debating the very existence of climate change rather than mapping out strategies to reverse it. We waste our time arguing over Creationism vs. evolution when we should be thoughtfully discussing the role of religion in a technological age.
We are a nation of idiots.
John
PS: we are a nation of idiots.
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John, a great explanation of the state of affairs as I (or some of us) see it. I think it's a result of the media feeding into the overall ignorance of the population.
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04-19-2014, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
The difference is I'm always in complete control of my emotions.
I know exactly where I am at all times.
I may appear like I'm about to go over the edge, but I never will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMyDYyg0FBA
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Good to know.
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04-19-2014, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
John, a great explanation of the state of affairs as I (or some of us) see it. I think it's a result of the media feeding into the overall ignorance of the population.
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I think media and its 24-hour news cycle is the principle culprit here. They have to fill all that time with something. There's also the blatant politicization of the news. There simply is no news reporting available here that isn't motivated by service to a political agenda.
John
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04-19-2014, 01:17 PM
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AKA Sister Mary JJ
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The Fourth Estate has died and been buried.
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04-19-2014, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Chris, I doubt the people who made that video believe a word if it.... but you never know. The makers do realize, however, that there are a lot of Americans who are more than willing to believe the most outlandish things about the Obamas as long as they're unflattering or scandalous.
DJ and the Tar Baby are such people. Tough they're a minority here, they are a large one.
We are a nation of idiots.
Just as we see here with DJ and Tar Baby, the crazies have taken control of the debate. They barrage the rest of us with their moronic conspiracy theories and their racism. Up to a certain point, they're fairly easy to ignore but as they increase the volume (in both senses of the word) of their imbecilic hatred, other (saner) people feel compelled to respond in order to challenge, object to or ridicule the crazies.
That shifts the focus of the discussion. We end up talking about whether President Obama was born in Kenya instead of our foreign policy regarding the African continent. We end up debating the very existence of climate change rather than mapping out strategies to reverse it. We waste our time arguing over Creationism vs. evolution when we should be thoughtfully discussing the role of religion in a technological age.
We are a nation of idiots.
John
PS: we are a nation of idiots.
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This is a consequence of many things, and the Excrement In Fraudcasting echo chamber and it's follow-ons and the conspiracy sites Like Alex Jones, ect, poison the well of public discourse with agenda-directed dis-information and agit-prop. I don't understand how those wedded/addicted to these "sources" can claim intellectual independence.
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04-19-2014, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
This is a consequence of many things, and the Excrement In Fraudcasting echo chamber and it's follow-ons and the conspiracy sites Like Alex Jones, ect, poison the well of public discourse with agenda-directed dis-information and agit-prop. I don't understand how those wedded/addicted to these "sources" can claim intellectual independence.
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For those influenced by such stuff, intellectual is a dirty word.
Regards,
D-Ray
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04-19-2014, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
Chris, I doubt the people who made that video believe a word if it.... but you never know. The makers do realize, however, that there are a lot of Americans who are more than willing to believe the most outlandish things about the Obamas as long as they're unflattering or scandalous.
DJ and the Tar Baby are such people. Tough they're a minority here, they are a large one.
We are a nation of idiots.
Just as we see here with DJ and Tar Baby, the crazies have taken control of the debate. They barrage the rest of us with their moronic conspiracy theories and their racism. Up to a certain point, they're fairly easy to ignore but as they increase the volume (in both senses of the word) of their imbecilic hatred, other (saner) people feel compelled to respond in order to challenge, object to or ridicule the crazies.
That shifts the focus of the discussion. We end up talking about whether President Obama was born in Kenya instead of our foreign policy regarding the African continent. We end up debating the very existence of climate change rather than mapping out strategies to reverse it. We waste our time arguing over Creationism vs. evolution when we should be thoughtfully discussing the role of religion in a technological age.
We are a nation of idiots.
John
PS: we are a nation of idiots.
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Funny thing I never look at the vid I have only commented on some troll post within this thread. Im not racist and to judge others like that you need to at the minimum show something in that regard.
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04-19-2014, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
The difference is I'm always in complete control of my emotions.
I know exactly where I am at all times.
I may appear like I'm about to go over the edge, but I never will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMyDYyg0FBA
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No your not you are a wacko ready to go postal.
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04-19-2014, 03:01 PM
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How do we know Dj is a man? He could be strapping. A bull dyke with her breasts taped down.
Hmmm........
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04-19-2014, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
How do we know Dj is a man? He could be strapping. A bull dyke with her breasts taped down.
Hmmm........
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I'd just hope he's a better man than his forum persona.
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