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04-06-2014, 06:31 PM
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The name's not Bob, Boraxo.
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Yeah, well for some reason I thought I was replying to Bob.
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And I didn't say veterans. I said active duty military, while in uniform and on duty.
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I realize that. I mentioned veterans because they represent a larger cohort than do active duty personnel with, in the aggregate, a greater degree of experience, both of life generally and of the military in particular. Clearly, you and I, both veterans, disagree but, having observed your sometimes misdirected or unfocused anger and aggression here, I can see why you hold the opinion you do.
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I don't see it being any different from civilian law enforcement carrying guns.
In fact I'd trust the soldiers with guns more than the cops.
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Unless you want to see active duty personnel out on the streets performing the functions of a police department, your comment is totally meaningless. And then there's this little thing called posse comitatus to consider.
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04-06-2014, 08:47 PM
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This is very simply another to way to promote the concept "good guys with a guns is the answer to bad guys with guns". Basically the gun lobby does not want any sensible conversation regarding gun control, period. Now they have the baggers to carry the message to the voting public and distort the message.
While, why people feel compelled to kill innocent bystanders before they kill themselves is seldom deliberated.
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04-07-2014, 10:36 AM
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I realize that. I mentioned veterans because they represent a larger cohort than do active duty personnel with, in the aggregate, a greater degree of experience, both of life generally and of the military in particular. Clearly, you and I, both veterans, disagree but, having observed your sometimes misdirected or unfocused anger and aggression here, I can see why you hold the opinion you do.
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Snark noted.
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Unless you want to see active duty personnel out on the streets performing the functions of a police department, your comment is totally meaningless. And then there's this little thing called posse comitatus to consider.
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No, I just trust active duty military more than you do.
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04-07-2014, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Snark noted.
No, I just trust active duty military more than you do.
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I find the idea chilling.
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04-07-2014, 10:53 AM
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Snark noted.
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But point ignored.
John
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04-07-2014, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Snark noted.
No, I just trust active duty military more than you do.
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Considering how they are re-programmed and will obey orders blindly the idea scaresa the hell out of me, especially given the leadership. Kent State is still in my mind.
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04-09-2014, 01:53 PM
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Considering how they are re-programmed and will obey orders blindly the idea scaresa the hell out of me, especially given the leadership. Kent State is still in my mind.
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I'm in full agreement here. I'm not that enamored by our young military. Officers only, perhaps, but arming 18 and 19 year olds, active or not, would scare me.
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