Conservatives wanted. Apply within.

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I think we should embrace government and let it be the impetus behind a better society.
Look at the traditional Western European countries that we saved with the Marshal Plan as example. Britain, France, England, etc after 1945

embraced government jobs and the civil service...never put a stigma on it.
embraced national health for their citizens
and some like Germany still have a manufacturing base

we should be moving toward Western Europe in our outlook not stigmatizing "Europeaness" if there is such a word.

places like Germany, Norway and Sweden are probably much better places to live than some places here