Koch Brothers spending vs the Unions

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Simple to us. Unfortunately half the country is slow on the uptake. They still haven't noticed that whatever concessions are made to please the so-called "job creaters", are only followed by more demands.

At some point we start telling them "no", or they'll end up with it all and we'll be working for simply because we're too proud not to. I'm thinking you're of the same mind as I on that point-----Fuck that.

Dave

The whole right-wing concept of income tax destroying job creation by taking money out of the pockets of "job creators" is utter bullshit political propaganda. And the American public supports it, not because they give a shit in Cantor's hat for the unemployed, but because, even with the lowest federal income tax schedule in over 60 years, they still want lower taxes. They're Americans...they want what they want, they want it right now, and they want somebody else to pay for it. America is getting exactly the kind of government it deserves.

Anyway, it's personal income tax. It has nothing to do with job creation.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The whole right-wing concept of income tax destroying job creation by taking money out of the pockets of "job creators" is utter bullshit political propaganda. And the American public supports it, not because they give a shit in Cantor's hat for the unemployed, but because, even with the lowest federal income tax schedule in over 60 years, they still want lower taxes. They're Americans...they want what they want, they want it right now, and they want somebody else to pay for it. America is getting exactly the kind of government it deserves.

Anyway, it's personal income tax. It has nothing to do with job creation.

Quite true, a Great Country to live in is costly to fund and that comes out of revenue from commerce without corruption. Compare taxes vs standard of living in, say, some Central/South American countries vs Scandinavia. I know where I'd rather live.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's perfectly legitimate to hate what multiple generations of Kochs have done and to do so without hating them.

John

Which is all well and good, but it doesn't reflect the content of the post I was referring to.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The whole right-wing concept of income tax destroying job creation by taking money out of the pockets of "job creators" is utter bullshit political propaganda.

Anyway, it's personal income tax. It has nothing to do with job creation.

Such observations are usually made in reference to businesses formed under S-Corp, Partnership or Sole Proprietor tax rules, where there's not much difference between the personal income tax of the business owner and the income tax of the business. In those cases, it has everything to do with job creation.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Such observations are usually made in reference to businesses formed under S-Corp, Partnership or Sole Proprietor tax rules, where there's not much difference between the personal income tax of the business owner and the income tax of the business. In those cases, it has everything to do with job creation.

Most people with sub-s corporations or sole proprietorships don't pay the top rate. In fact, very few do. Furthermore, they employ very few people, sometimes none.

John

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Most people with sub-s corporations or sole proprietorships don't pay the top rate. In fact, very few do. Furthermore, they employ very few people, sometimes none.

John

Wherever you get your info, I'd ask for a refund. Just looking at my clients as a random sample, about 60% of my clients are S-corps, and all of them have employees.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

Wherever you get your info, I'd ask for a refund. Just looking at my clients as a random sample, about 60% of my clients are S-corps, and all of them have employees.

First place I worked down here was a sub-s, a female clerk and I were the only non family staff out of 7.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Wherever you get your info, I'd ask for a refund. Just looking at my clients as a random sample, about 60% of my clients are S-corps, and all of them have employees.

Do they all pay top tax rate for their bracket?

Or am I and all the other "little people" carrying their burden?

Dave

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Wherever you get your info, I'd ask for a refund. Just looking at my clients as a random sample, about 60% of my clients are S-corps, and all of them have employees.

I said some have no employees, Whell. This is especially true for sub-s. My point is that sole proprietorships and sub-s corps are fairly insignificant as "job creators".

John

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Wherever you get your info, I'd ask for a refund. Just looking at my clients as a random sample, about 60% of my clients are S-corps, and all of them have employees.

What is the average number of employees that your Sub S clients employ and what % are non family members?