Meet Rand Paul

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

No shit. Although 5 below is calling the perps of this sinister plot "government" so maybe he's including the GOP and teabagger members as co-conspirators. If that's the case...maybe I'll go along with him on this one...but just a smidgen.

Hey Ike yes they are all one and the same. Why do you think nothing ever changes no mater what party occupies the white house. Regardless what you think Im not on either side there all robbing us blind.

What if the fed had only the reach and power as the constitution states. And our tax to them was maybe 3% of earning. We would not need SSI or any other hand outs because we would save and invest our own money. As it stands now they took the SSI fund and squandered it. I will never see any of that by the time I retire.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Yup. It's the same out here.

Yup. It's the same out here as well.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by icenine

I don't know.....lowballing firemen and policemen on wages and benefits does not make me feel safe. And it can be a factor in corrupition. I sort of side with paying them well.

$260.000.00 - $300,000.00 a year to little?

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

$260.000.00 - $300,000.00 a year to little?

WTF? Many retire at $1,000,000.00 per year out here. It's a big issue right now.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

In New York State:I believe the better paid workers, especially those in a union, have consistently beat the system with disability.

It is the Firemen, Policemen and railroad workers. We have had a sordid history of these players. Their doctors and lawyers are a union.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1700139

Last month a doctor got 8 years for his part in the infamous one billion dollar Long Island Rail Road disability scam

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1628516

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Yup. It's the same out here.

WTF? Many retire at $1,000,000.00 per year out here. It's a big issue right now.

Meh. You're just jealous. Stop your damn pouting and go plant some trees. It's the only time you're actually good for something.

Dave

[Dondilion]

In New York it was an open secret for many years of what was happening on the disability scene.

However because so many of the scammers were law enforcers the authorities
by and large ignored it. And the mfers became greedy, real greedy and the whole thing ballooned.

Here is a reasonable article from last year on the sky rocketing claims for disability in the US.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/11/news...lity-payments/

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Hey Ike yes they are all one and the same. Why do you think nothing ever changes no mater what party occupies the white house. Regardless what you think Im not on either side there all robbing us blind.

Bullshit. You lie like a dog. If that were the case we'd hear as much carping and pissing and moaning outta you about House Republicans as we do about Obama. Or at least some pissing and moaning about the GOP...at least as much as you hear about Obama from us on the left who are pretty disappointed with his performance in so many areas. You're fulla shit.

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

What if the fed had only the reach and power as the constitution states. And our tax to them was maybe 3% of earning. We would not need SSI or any other hand outs because we would save and invest our own money. As it stands now they took the SSI fund and squandered it. I will never see any of that by the time I retire.

Then go make something out of yourself and don't depend on it. I haven't.

And besides...you're an idiot. You think that the only reason Americans don't save enough money to retire on is because of the "reach and power" of the FED? American's don't save enough money because they're Americans...they want what they want and they want it right now. Do you know how many Americans are making over 6 figures a year and living paycheck to paycheck because they want the house they want and the car they want and the fucking club membership they want and the dinner at Morton's Steak House they want and the $50,000 POS surround sound home theater system they want and don't save a fucking penny?

Jesus you're a waste of bandwidth.

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

$260.000.00 - $300,000.00 a year to little?

Where the hell are cops or firefighters making that kind of money? dj- $1,000,000 seriously, where do you dream up the shit you post. In NYC if your a high ranking police officer with tons of OT your maybe making 200k, maybe. Are there numerous bad eggs in the disability system; absolutely! Who's fault is that besides the folks who run the workers comp system and should be following up? The one article is all about Long Island rail road employees which last I checked is a separate union and completely different story. There is disability abuse in every profession, every sector. Why is there no followup by the workers comp board?

I get it it's bash the police and firefighters now. Hey dj and 4-2-7 hear that siren, your house is burning with your family inside, but the hell with the firefighters they make too much money.

[MikeG22]

http://seethroughny.net/pensions/pensions-fire/

[bobabode]

Add teachers to the list of the bashed Mike, you know it's coming. I sometimes wonder if it's a juvenile response to people in authority or simply envy that government workers have a pension and they don't.