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03-19-2014, 06:52 PM
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You've noticed that too?
I'm not saying the military retirees don't deserve their bennies, just that I find it interesting that so many of them think no one else does.
This country is full of people who feel entitled to their nice benefits, but attack others who do the same. "I deserve it and more, but you deserve nothing."
Elitism at its worst.
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03-19-2014, 07:28 PM
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03-19-2014, 08:20 PM
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03-19-2014, 10:50 PM
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I'm military retired on S/S, I don't think a country that doesn't care for it's own is worth defending. Screw those Henny-Penny crab-apples.
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03-19-2014, 10:53 PM
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I'm military retired on S/S, I don't think a country that doesn't care for it's own is worth defending. Screw those Henny-Penny crab-apples.
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Respectfully, I don't believe everyone retired from the military to be "my own."
Screw those who believe I owe them anything for what they volunteered for.
There's a lot of elitism from many who deserve a good bitch slap.
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03-19-2014, 10:59 PM
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Respectfully, I don't believe everyone retired from the military to be "my own."
Screw those who believe I owe them anything for what they volunteered for.
There's a lot of elitism from many who deserve a good bitch slap.
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I was referring to everyone that made this country work, economically and otherwise. Using them up and tossing them aside when nothing else can be taken out of them doesn't become a country that considers itself "advanced".
Sorry if you took it personally.
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03-19-2014, 11:08 PM
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I was referring to everyone that made this country work, economically and otherwise. Using them up and tossing them aside when nothing else can be taken out of them doesn't become a country that considers itself "advanced".
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Not in the slightest, friend!
I guess I've seen too many armchair warriors who spent thirty seconds flying over a desert desire me to be beholden to them for a level of safety they didn't actually provide.
No issues, here.
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03-19-2014, 11:15 PM
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I think anyone who engages in an effort which they firmly believes will benefit the country deserves our gratitude. If a soldier goes off to war because he or she believes the war is being fought to protect their country, then they must be admired for their bravery and commitment. If a teacher chooses her career out of a sense of mission, the raising and preparation of the next generation of Americans, she should be praised for her service.
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03-19-2014, 11:21 PM
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Not in the slightest, friend!
I guess I've seen too many armchair warriors who spent thirty seconds flying over a desert desire me to be beholden to them for a level of safety they didn't actually provide.
No issues, here.
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I'm very grateful for everything the VA does for me, some of my fellow vets including the types you mentioned have an overblown and abusive sense of entitlement that is scary to the point of wishing for an armed guard at the facility.
FWIW, beyond the obvious toll of human carnage, the ongoing cost of wounded vet aftercare should be strongly considered when volunteering military action for something other than national defense/ survival, and the commitment willingly funded along with the munitions and other profitable aspects of international affairs beyond diplomacy.
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03-19-2014, 11:25 PM
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I think anyone who engages in an effort which they firmly believes will benefit the country deserves our gratitude. If a soldier goes off to war because he or she believes the war is being fought to protect their country, then they must be admired for their bravery and commitment. If a teacher chooses her career out of a sense of mission, the raising and preparation of the next generation of Americans, she should be praised for her service.
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Can you tell me the last war that was actively fought to protect our country?
I don't confuse Nationalism with Patriotism nor do I believe unfettered Patriotism is a positive.
That said, I get your point and acknowledge it. I've just witnessed too many guys who drove a truck through a secure area that happened to have sand act as if they are Lawrence of Arabia and I should pay homage.
Unlikely.
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