3 Inconvenient Facts That Make Libertarians Heads Explode

[JJIII]

If only people would take that into account when they post.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

I see it more these days that the will to believe the lies told is strongest. It doesn't mater if facts are present it's still a falsehood.

But, are you willing to accept that you just might one of the lie believers?

Dave

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

But, are you willing to accept that you just might one of the lie believers?

Dave

No!

It's true I read it on the internet, honest I did.

You are all the ones following One Party, Two Media sources and don't realize that your the distraction for others gain in power and money.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Pukka Sahib

Libertarianism would be a perfect political ideology but for one flaw: it doesn’t work. The problem is that it is not based on reality. It is a construct as advanced in works of philosophy and fiction, e.g., Utopia, Thomas Moore (1516); Island, Aldous Huxley (1962). It simply fails to take human nature into account. In W. Somerset Maugham’s novel The Moon and Sixpence, a roman à clef based loosely on the life of the artist Paul Gauguin, the narrator asks the principal character Charles Strickland about his views on Kant’s categorical imperative: "Act so that every one of your actions is capable of being made into a universal rule." To which Strickland. replies, "I never heard it before, but it's rotten nonsense."

Libertarianism, assumes that all men are good, and therefore there is no need to police their actions.

For one example, "...all businessmen are good, they create jobs and it's only market forces that guide their decisions.". Hmmmmmmmm, really?

It's not that all businessmen are bad and can't be trusted, that certainly is not true. However, some are just that.

This is why we have laws and regulation. It's not perfect, but in lieu of it, we give license to the bad element. And I do not believe that "market forces" will always punish the bad. In fact, at times it seems to reward bad behavior and right handsomely at that.

Which, to my mind, is far worse than what we have.

I agree, Pukka. Libertarianism, like Communism, carried to it's extreme is a utopian concept that does not allow for human nature.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

No!

It's true I read it on the internet, honest I did.

You are all the ones following One Party, Two Media sources and don't realize that your the distraction for others gain in power and money.

LMAO!

Dave

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Rob, I think Barnum, Caesar and the Borgia Pope were all on the same page. It's just that the old showman was a bit cruder in expressing what the others had said. We believe what we want to believe, whether it's that the lady really was sawn in half or that there are WMD in Iraq..... or that the Fascists in Ukraine carried out a democratic revolution. If the carnival barkers and political pitchmen tell us something that confirms what we want to believe about ourselves or others, we're all over it, whether it be true or otherwise.

John

John those days are behind me because as I get closer to meeting my maker I simply do not have the time to tilt at windmills.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

That quote would be awesome in the above Political Chat banner.

"Men willingly believe what they wish to be true."

Which includes YOU, btw.

Dave

[Pio1980]

I thot I could be a Libertarian until I connected the dots and they led to the guys with all the money, and I wasn't willing to carry their water as a stooge. I independently came to the same conclusions as the article outlined.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

"Men willingly believe what they wish to be true."

Which includes YOU, btw.

Dave

Of corse Dave I don't have a better than attitude that's my pet peeve. That's what keeps me here by the way, this site is full of them.

Not you obviously.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

I thot I could be a Libertarian until I connected the dots and they led to the guys with all the money, and I wasn't willing to carry their water as a stooge. I independently came to the same conclusions as the article outlined.

I think the libertarians who don't have two nickels to rub together are the really interesting ones. And there are, a bunch of them. I think they like the economic anarchist part of the whole philosophy, and it's easy to blame the Fed, and the government, and anybody who doesn't think like them for their limited financial success. It's actually the financially disadvantaged libertarians who seem to be the most economically radial...blowing von Mises chunks all over the place all day long.

And it's the continuous bleating about all we have to do is stop buying anything from Hooker Chemical, and there will never be another Love Canal or stop buying anything from Union Carbide and there will never be another Bhopal.