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Old 02-11-2014, 08:43 AM
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Not only is it rolling federal debt onto us, it's also giving us a pay cut:

“CBO estimates that the ACA will cause a reduction of roughly 1 percent in aggregate labor compensation over the 2017-2024 period, compared with what it would have been otherwise.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...e03_story.html

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That's what I have been saying.

Bottom line - less work less pay higher cost of living.

I can also see the few remaining big corporations still here leaving our shores.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:51 AM
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If SS had been setup like this, were it was left up to the individual to sign up. Then what would of happened? Most would put it off, waiting till just before retirement. The Congress at the time knew it had to be mandatory and taken out of pay. No options A,B,C all based on income.

So it might take awhile but it will dawn on Congress as the only solution.


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Then they can take out additional money for future expenditures, and spend it on something else.

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Old 02-11-2014, 09:21 AM
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Another mandate extension today 2/11/14

For employers with 55-99 employees till 2016.

They are trying to break up the impact, just like the millions that lost their existing planes allready (Me).

They only are willing to lose smaller sums of the voting block each election!! lol

Why would they need to do this if this is so wonderful?
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:52 AM
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Another mandate extension today 2/11/14

For employers with 55-99 employees till 2016.

They are trying to break up the impact, just like the millions that lost their existing planes allready (Me).

They only are willing to lose smaller sums of the voting block each election!! lol

Why would they need to do this if this is so wonderful?
Oh no! Obama is coming to take our planes.

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Old 02-11-2014, 10:10 AM
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chicken little debt crisis


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Old 02-11-2014, 10:15 AM
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Ok you all can't get enough of this one yet.

ACA is dyeing on the vine and the only ones that will be paying for it is us poor ass holes.
Any future changes to the ACA will go in one direction and one direction only.

Towards universal single payer.

We are not going back.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:19 AM
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That's what I have been saying.

Bottom line - less work less pay higher cost of living.

I can also see the few remaining big corporations still here leaving our shores.
I hate to ask, but really, do you know what you've been saying?
Practice on yourself first before posting.
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:30 AM
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The real question, WHY the delay? Why the other delays? And does he have the authority to do these things?

With every delay the insurance companies are seeing the sheer incompetence of this admin and making it more expensive for everyone. Which will add steam to the next rollover in 2014

Pete
Pete - The goal at of the administration at this point for PPACA has not a whit to do with expanding access to health coverage / health care. The goal now is to keep this train wreck on the political tracks until after the 2014 mid term elections, and grease the skids for the 2016 election cycle.

Also, since delaying the mandate also means a delay in collecting the anticipated taxes / fees that PPACA required on top of health insurance premiums, it also means that we've completely kicked the questions/concerns of the cost of this law to the curb. There's no way that PPACA can deliver on the "promises" made regarding deficit reductions, reducing the cost of care. Not that those promises were anything more than BS at the time that they were made.
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:53 AM
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Oh Pete could you please change Whell's Senior Member to Resident Optimist.
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Old 02-11-2014, 12:14 PM
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Nothing to do with taking plans you have to have those.

All to do with higher cost and people vote with there pocketbook.
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