The Affordable Care Act

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Our barn and carriage house were built by the Amish. The young men that put them in place impressed me. Yes they dress differently but you don't judge people by their clothes but by their behaviour.

A good working society.

Maybe we should all learn from them. They congregate among themselves and don't impose their views onto others.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Our barn and carriage house were built by the Amish. The young men that put them in place impressed me. Yes they dress differently but you don't judge people by their clothes but by their behaviour.

Rob, I was kidding with Whell. I very much respect the Amish work ethic, craftsmanship and their choice of lifestyle.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Yep we will be seeing more and more propaganda.

I can't wait to get my little red book and armband.

What part of people are signing up for Obamacare while they do their taxes did you miss?

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by merrylander

NOt truly a ploy, one thing that helped was growing up in a small village in Quebec that my uncle started with another man. You realized that everyone in the village knew who you were so you were careful not to do anything that would embarass your parents.

My older sister just turned 89 this month, we are the only two surviving siblings. She lives in British Columbia so we are a continent apart.

Wow they broke ground and made a town! What was the resource there to make a living? Farming.
You were truly raised by the village.

89 is a long time, I really don't think I'll make it to 60 myself. My grandfather lived a long time and saw much change. 94 years watching the invention of cars, planes to computers and the space shuttle.

[Rajoo]

Back to Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.

For this to be truly successful, two key changes needs to be made. These are IMO only.

1. Get insurance companies out of healthcare business entirely. I personally do not trust insurance companies since "do not pay" is ingrained in their culture. Find me a doctor that trusts insurance companies. Difficult to provide healthcare when one does not know if, when and how much will ever be paid out. Governments have deeper pockets than insurance companies who have more lawyers than pockets.

2. Get employers out of the healthcare distribution business. This then will make healthcare truly portable, even the playing field for the self employed.

I also believe that Canadian system is a very good model for us to follow though this may be a bit difficult as it is an NIH system. Finally we should start calling ACA for what it really is; Romney-Obama Healthcare Act.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Wow they broke ground and made a town! What was the resource there to make a living? Farming.
You were truly raised by the village.

So maybe Hillary was right?
89 is a long time, I really don't think I'll make it to 60 myself. My grandfather lived a long time and saw much change. 94 years watching the invention of cars, planes to computers and the space shuttle.

83 is longish also growing old is not for sissies.

It was 25 miles east of Montreal so most people worked in the city and commuted by train.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by icenine

What part of people are signing up for Obamacare while they do their taxes did you miss?

public announcements about Obamacare when they go to the roller derby track north of Seattle.<Propaganda

Univision, the nation's largest Spanish-language television network, is airing half-hour specials about healthy living and educating viewers about how to sign up for coverage under President Obama's health law.<Propaganda

And tax preparers at thousands of Jackson Hewitt and H&R Block offices are talking to their customers about how to enroll in the new insurance plans sold through the law's online marketplaces.<Propaganda

Although many companies are wary of associating with the health law while it remains a political lightning rod, < They don't want to push propaganda the Affordable Care Act is increasingly entering the mainstream as major corporations, sports teams and others integrate it into their businesses.<All Propaganda.

And thats the opening of the article. Do you not see the propaganda blitz going on?

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#ixzz2sqm49ElU

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Back to Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.

For this to be truly successful, two key changes needs to be made. These are IMO only.

1. Get insurance companies out of healthcare business entirely. I personally do not trust insurance companies since "do not pay" is ingrained in their culture. Find me a doctor that trusts insurance companies. Difficult to provide healthcare when one does not know if, when and how much will ever be paid out. Governments have deeper pockets than insurance companies who have more lawyers than pockets.

2. Get employers out of the healthcare distribution business. This then will make healthcare truly portable, even the playing field for the self employed.

I also believe that Canadian system is a very good model for us to follow though this may be a bit difficult as it is an NIH system. Finally we should start calling ACA for what it really is; Romney-Obama Healthcare Act.

I wonder if there is a copy of the act on some gov.ca site, would be relatively easy to rework it. It would save a few forests as it seems all that I ever did during the knee problem was fill out forms, at least five pages at every site. Although they are computerized they never seem to keep it on file.

It has been so long I have forgotten what is the tax on income now for medical? It was 0.8% on taxable income when I left Canada. Ontario charged $54 per month for family but I believe it varied from province to province.

My understanding is that Canadian employers were only too happy to be relieved of healthcare. As for the insurance companies I believe that if you want to buy a policy from say Aetna you could, you would be nuts but I don't believe it is against the law. That was most likely the reason for killing the public option here.

[4-2-7]

By the way as far as signing up for ACA I'll be sitting on the side lines. They can try and penalize me if they want.

As far as if something happens they still can't not provide service.

I'll Mooch

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Rob, I was kidding with Whell. I very much respect the Amish work ethic, craftsmanship and their choice of lifestyle.

Sorry Rajoo that was not meant as a criticism, I think I know you better than that. PBS had a documentary on them just about a week ago. I really have to setup a DVR as nowadays at 9:00 PM I turn into a pumpkin.

By the way carriage house is sort of a misnomer. Our pproperty has a difference in levels of at least 50 feet so we bought a golf cart. Used to keep it in the barn down at the bottom, but that meant walking uphill after putting it away. So we got a mini barn from them and set it right beside the deck. Now we just climb the stairs and not the hill.