The Affordable Care Act

[merrylander]

[QUOTE=4-2-7;192855]What color Kool-Aid are you drinking today?

You are the one drinking the kool aid. American Management Systems which was bought out in 2004 by CGI was on that short list of 16 companies, so whose administration was that in 2004?

Theit track record was one of total incompetence, why CGI left the management intact defies understanding.

So you chose to believe a lot of unsubstatiated rumours, be my guest..

As a matter of idle curiousity have you ever travelled beyong the borders of California?

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Really,then why did the Bank of England hire away the Governor of the Bank of Canada? Why does Royal Bank pay me ten times the interest that Bank America does. You really need to take into account that the favourite American pastime is dissing our neighbours to the north.

BTW if you went into a bank up there and said derivatives they would wash your mouth out. Why is it always America that comes up with these hair brained systems?

Considering the way gold pricces fluctuate we sold our gold also, you can't eat it.

Hey none of my statements say anything about what countries banking system is better. Thats all projection on your part.

The USA and it Federal reserve with the world reserve currency is crashing the worlds economies.

That said don't call me a dummy and say falcaties on the Canadian banking system. None of them are doing good.

As far as eating gold thats the dumbass comments the banking systems want you to say "A Talking Point" Perpetuated by there midia mouth.

Paper Currencies Always Go To Zero Value. Thats a fact Sonny Boy.

Precious metals and most all commodities will never reach a zero value unless they have a shelf life.

Ask yourself this how long have Precious Metals been used for money/assets.

Now how long for fiat and or paper currencies.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Not to mention duplicative staff and facilities up and down the line for the hundreds of health insurance companies in the country. Maybe Whell has never heard of economies of scale.

I do know that our family doctor has extra clerical staff just to handle all the different healthcare insurance companies and forms.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by merrylander

And that is just the CEOs, add in the rest of Mahogany Row and all the Board members and you are talking money.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Not to mention duplicative staff and facilities up and down the line for the hundreds of health insurance companies in the country. Maybe Whell has never heard of economies of scale.

Mention non-profit and see the industry's guns start a blazing.

Real money would be saved by cutting the costs from the top down and standardizing/simplifying policies. But that would cut jobs effected by streamlining. Right now nothing prevents the industry from cutting their real costs in overhead.


Barney

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Hey none of my statements say anything.

Precious metals and most all commodities will never reach a zero value unless they have a shelf life.

Ask yourself this how long have Precious Metals been used for money/assets.

Up until the world discovered that industrial uses had raised the price of those precious metals to the point that the silver in a silver dollar was worth $1.50

So if all the paper currencies have gone to zero who is going to buy your gold? It only has use in industry, jewelry and dentistry, so if I have a freezer full of food (well we have two actually) why would I exchange any of it for your effing gold?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by mpholland

I am not going to completely disagree here. I am sure there was some cronyism going on there. There always is, has been, and will be. No bid contracts are always suspicious to me.

On the other hand, my friends are the first people I go to when I need a job done. I think that is pretty much human nature. If I were to run for office or need money for some other reason, those same friends would donate/loan to me in a heartbeat. Especially the token amounts you listed. It isn't like they were "major" campaign contributions. I would also hope that the company president visited the white house at least a few times before the contract was awarded. No visits would leave me far more suspicious than six does.

"Newsmax Media, commonly called Newsmax, is a conservative American news media organization founded by Christopher W. Ruddy and based in West Palm Beach, Florida."

And guess lives across the intercoastal waterway. None other than this one.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by mpholland

I am not going to completely disagree here. I am sure there was some cronyism going on there. There always is, has been, and will be. No bid contracts are always suspicious to me.

On the other hand, my friends are the first people I go to when I need a job done. I think that is pretty much human nature. If I were to run for office or need money for some other reason, those same friends would donate/loan to me in a heartbeat. Especially the token amounts you listed. It isn't like they were "major" campaign contributions. I would also hope that the company president visited the white house at least a few times before the contract was awarded. No visits would leave me far more suspicious than six does.

Only it was not a no bid.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by mpholland

I am not going to completely disagree here. I am sure there was some cronyism going on there. There always is, has been, and will be. No bid contracts are always suspicious to me.

On the other hand, my friends are the first people I go to when I need a job done. I think that is pretty much human nature. If I were to run for office or need money for some other reason, those same friends would donate/loan to me in a heartbeat. Especially the token amounts you listed. It isn't like they were "major" campaign contributions. I would also hope that the company president visited the white house at least a few times before the contract was awarded. No visits would leave me far more suspicious than six does.

A good balanced mind you have and it's visible.

But I'm sure if you were intrusted to assemble a project with someone elses money.

You would
Take numerous bids.
Look at all references.
Look at past projects.

If it's something that you never did before Im sure you would seek advice by some experts.

You would also oversee the project leaving deposits as work progressed.
If the project did not grow to expected levels you're certainly not going to continue paying. You would have them fix the problem without further changes.

We did not get what we paid for bottom line.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Only it was not a no bid.

Sorry, hadn't really been interested enough in this matter to educate myself with this issue. I was just reacting to what was posted and trying to interject a little "uncommon sense" into what I read.

[Rajoo]

It was not an exclusive cntract.

How did CGI land the Healthcare.gov contract?

CGI Federal's winning bid stretches back to 2007, when it was one of 16 companies to get certified on a $4 billion "indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity" contract for upgrading Medicare and Medicaid's systems. Government-Wide Acquisition Contracts — GWACs, as they're affectionately known — allow agencies to issue task orders to pre-vetted companies without going through the full procurement process, but also tend to lock out companies that didn't get on the bandwagon originally. According to USASpending.gov, CGI Federal got a total of $678 million for various services under the contract — including the $93.7 million Healthcare.gov job, which CGI Federal won over three other companies in late 2011.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ealthcare-gov/