The Affordable Care Act

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

In the bolded;

No, they're not. I haven't had a "COLA" raise in years. Few people do any more, 'cept maybe government employees and the last three private sector union members left. When was the last time you checked to see if people get annual COLA increases? 1999?

Where do you get this bullshit?

Employers ARE cutting wages. They're doing it cross the country. My employer just cut the starting wage by $3 per hour effective January the first and begun pressuring older employees to retire, firing people at the drop of a hat and scrutinizing the shit out of people. It's called wage reduction through attrition. Pull your head out of your ass and face reality. Income disparity IS a problem and it's getting worse. What's more, it's deliberate. They do it simply because they can.

It's right in front of your face and you don't "get" any of it.

Dave

Dave I do believe you but it's not all or most companies doing it. I have already said before it's a supply and demand economy for labor right now. Despite any spin on it most of the economy is still in bad shape. New jobs are not keeping up with the population growth let alone the ones that lost work.

Until job growth happens it's the way it will be. Thats why you all should be up in arms about anything thats stopping growth of the job sector. Or anyone providing a bad environment for new companies.

[BlueStreak]

Yep. High wages, Healthcare you can't lose and well educated workforce.....We have people down here who seem hell bent to eliminate all of those things. Why? I don't know, it's completely beyond me. Unless they're trying to turn the whole damn country into a plantation is all I can guess.

Dave

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Bigerik

That horribly expensive, ridiculously expensive health care system is a lot of what cost the US millions of jobs over the past decades. I remember when we stole a couple of plants from you guys some years back. The reason Toyota gave was that, even though our wages were much higher, the health care costs were so much cheaper that they ended up way ahead opening the plant here.

If you really think about it, if you decided to start the worst health care system you could for the average Joe, the US system would pretty well be it.

If you think what any country really needs for success, the two crucial elements are a healthy and well educated workforce. The US is the model for how to make those two things hard to achieve.

Corporations leave the US borders because of Taxes and Labor Cost. Yes health care is part of the labor cost but so is numerous contributors.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Dave I do believe you but it's not all or most companies doing it. I have already said before it's a supply and demand economy for labor right now. Despite any spin on it most of the economy is still in bad shape. New jobs are not keeping up with the population growth let alone the ones that lost work.

Until job growth happens it's the way it will be. Thats why you all should be up in arms about anything thats stopping growth of the job sector. Or anyone providing a bad environment for new companies.

B-S. From the first letter to the last. Job growth could be twice what it is and it would make little to no difference. The goal is to force costs in the US down in the name of global competition, regardless of market conditions. That's what has been going on for the last 40 years. It is the driving force behind all of the outsourcing, union busting..............

The goal is keep all of any gains at the top and it's DELIBERATE. What's more is that it's becoming obvious to everyone, but YOU, apparently.

People should be protecting their interests, not just giving back until the businessman is happy....Because the fuckers are NEVER happy. What? It's in our interest to let our workers be reduced to peasants? Fuck that noise.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Corporations leave the US borders because of Taxes and Labor Cost. Yes health care is part of the labor cost but so is numerous contributors.

Blah, blah, blah, blah...................

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Dave I do believe you but it's not all or most companies doing it. I have already said before it's a supply and demand economy for labor right now. Despite any spin on it most of the economy is still in bad shape. New jobs are not keeping up with the population growth let alone the ones that lost work.

Until job growth happens it's the way it will be. Thats why you all should be up in arms about anything thats stopping growth of the job sector. Or anyone providing a bad environment for new companies.

Bullcrap. More deregulation and more 'right to work' states? How's that been working out for U.S. workers? Like the shit end of the stick.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

B-S. From the first letter to the last. Job growth could be twice what it is and it would make little to no difference. The goal is to force costs in the US down in the name of global competition, regardless of market conditions. That's what has been going on for the last 40 years. It is the driving force behind all of the outsourcing, union busting..............

The goal is keep all of any gains at the top and it's DELIBERATE. What's more is that it's becoming obvious to everyone, but YOU, apparently.

People should be protecting their interests, not just giving back until the businessman is happy....Because the fuckers are NEVER happy. What? It's in our interest to let our workers be reduced to peasants? Fuck that noise.

Dave

I had asked this before and never got an answer.
When you all talk about income equality does that stop at the US borders?
Or is it world wide?

[bobabode]

That's because it's a bullshit question straight outta 'How to argue with liberals for dummies'.

[BlueStreak]

It's a problem, that needs to be dealt with not given in to, WORLD WIDE.

Does that answer your question?

Dave

[bobabode]

Tell you what 13. How about you start your own thread instead of threadcrapping and attempting to derail this thread about the ACA?