The Affordable Care Act

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Yeh suuuure and I've got some (soon to be) ocean front property in the Everglades that you might want to invest in.

I'm really surprised that you haven't brought up the perils we face from the United Nations, yet.

"Property?"

Third Party Risk!
Overhead ie: Maintenance, Taxes
All and All it's not yours after you bought it. It can be taken at any time and you can't put it in your pocket and walk away.

[bobabode]

No chit D Ray. I guess I shouldn't post over at AudioKarma about the wonders of bourbon.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Do you really think that the underground economy is that huge? That gardeners and laborers are really a big drain on the taxes of everyone else?

It matters more what the IRS and the USDOL think, and the gov't has significantly stepped up enforcement in this area. It's been an issue not just with "gardeners and laborers". It's always been an issue in the construction industry, but it's also becoming more and more a challenge as businesses try to classify employees as contractors rather than employees in consulting jobs in areas like IT, Finance, Marketing, etc.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

As do employers!!

I can't remember the last time I worked by the hour and I look at the ones that do and it's a joke most of the time.

If I see it so do others.

You two should get a room. This is a family forum.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by whell

It matters more what the IRS and the USDOL think, and the gov't has significantly stepped up enforcement in this area. It's been an issue not just with "gardeners and laborers". It's always been an issue in the construction industry, but it's also becoming more and more a challenge as businesses try to classify employees as contractors rather than employees in consulting jobs in areas like IT, Finance, Marketing, etc.

Cheaper to hire subs than it is to add employees to the payroll.

[Rajoo]

Hey 13, your arguments look like this.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I don't know what the GOP is saying...

Here's one view of their reaction to the CBO report:

The reaction to the CBO study is an example of how willfully stupid — there’s no other word — the debate over Obamacare has become. Opponents don’t look to a painstaking analysis for enlightenment. They twist its findings and turn them into dishonest slogans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...0da_story.html

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Cheaper to hire subs than it is to add employees to the payroll.

Yup and it's time to close that loophole.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

As do employers!!

I can't remember the last time I worked by the hour and I look at the ones that do and it's a joke most of the time.

If I see it so do others.

Do you read what you type? So every one that works by the hour is what in your esteemed opinion?

You said you are self employed. So what would you know about employing people?

[4-2-7]

Lets get back to Obamacare and how nonsensical Obamanomic relates to 2.5 million 40 week jobs loss is better.

How is the Quality of Life of Americans going to be better with less take home pay? Working less hours?

When the gripe is that employers don't pay enough as it is.
All the while Goods and Services cost more and more everyday.
Anyone holding a job will loose more dollars earned to even more federal taxes imposed.
Which will reduce the middle classes buying of all goods and services.
Which will reduce sales at the local economy
Property taxes will go up to help cover local and state governments.

I can go on and on because it's a snowball effect.

Not just our GDP will suffer but the worlds GDP will.