The Affordable Care Act

[barbara]

Revising the Medicare reform legislation that prohibits negotiating for lower drug prices would go a long way toward reducing drug prices.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by barbara

Revising the Medicare reform legislation that prohibits negotiating for lower drug prices would go a long way toward reducing drug prices.

Right but we all know who wrote that clause (and it was not Santa).

[piece-itpete]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_258285.html

Pete

[icenine]

Originally Posted by whell

..and you're dreaming if you think those numbers are real. LOL

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...target-number/


this is a critical article about the 7 million target claim that does not dispute the administation's claim of 2.2 million enrollees.....

[icenine]

I would not be surprised that there are people working 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs (way over the 80 hours in a two-week pay period) and would not be eligible for subisidies...

people getting 3-4 hours sleep a night just trying to survive

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by mpholland

If the government wants to subsidize something, how about subsidizing the research and development so that it can't be used as an excuse to keep drugs and treatments so damn high. "Hey look, we have a new drug to keep you alive, but your life will be miserable because if you don't give us our price, you will die". How about figuring out how to keep medicine affordable instead of figuring out how to pay the exorbitant costs. How about highly taxing the huge pharma profits to subsidize insurance. How about......? There are all kinds of solutions, they just need to be figured out. That is what this country used to be great at. I'm not quite sure WTF happened to that.

Why do you think all those foreign drug companies manitain offices here? So they get their hands on the research of the NIH and our universities. The government does way more research than Big Pharma, especially if it is a disease that only kills a few people.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

...as soon as you calm down, check your facts. Most of these folks need not buy insurance. They would be eligible for Medicaid.

Not in Texas as Perry did not want any part of ACA, you see we have fifty different sets of rules here in the Yewnighted States.

It is so much simpler to do a universal plan, why is it always done the hard way.

Oh and I am quite calm, we have excellent coverage, there will likely be a COLA on my pension in 2014, so we are quite comfortable. I do have some concern for my fellow citizens but I guess that is un-American - right?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

That's frankly not true. There are relatively few brand name drug manufacturers, but a large number of secondary / generic manufacturers. Wholesalers/distributors provide a valuable service connecting retailers with the multitude of domestic and international suppliers. If the retailers had to deal with that complexity, their costs of procurement would likely rise.

Dear dear such naivete, so who was it sent the price of a certain ointment from $56 for a 60 mg tube to $305 in the space of thre wonths?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

I've posted on that in this forum at least 3 times now.

Where have you articulated an alternative to O Care, Mike? I would love to read it. I would love to see any alternative from a conservative or a Repub.

BTW, nice to know that you are spokesman for the conservative hivemind.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

Who's pissing and moaning? What in the world leads you to believe that this is "all in the hands of the insurance companies and employers"?

There is nothing in the ACA that causes any American to be forced to change plans or doctors. If anybody has to sign up for a different plan or a different doctor or medical group it's because of changes in the availability of doctors and medical groups from plan to plan. The ACA doesn't do that. Insurance companies do that.