The Affordable Care Act

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

try getting single payer past the false debt crisis wing of the GOP

people like that idiot from Oklahoma and Paul Ryan

Originally Posted by icenine

I mean a nation that can elect Louis Goehmert and Ted Cruz ain't gonna go for the National Health.....

And, therein lies the problem, doesn't it?

Dave

[icenine]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

And, therein lies the problem, doesn't it?

Dave

just sayin

I mean remember what Teddy said...what is possible

hey if we elect a Donkey President and super majority Dems in both houses I will jump up and down with joy when they pass the National Health

even if my taxes go up where I cannot afford anything

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Damn, Chas. We are in agreement........100% agreement on this issue, actually. WTF?

Dave

I've been saying for years that this is like All Star Wrasslin.

While we're out here in the peanut gallery bashing one another in the head with folding chairs, our "heros" are down in the locker room splitting up the take.

We're suckers. We agree on probably 80% of all issues, but we continue to be fools sucked into the existing political paradigm.

I guess it will all come out in the wash...eventually.

Chas

[d-ray657]

Enough of us get drunk, Chas, and we'll all be agreeing with you.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by icenine

try getting single payer past the false debt crisis wing of the GOP

people like that idiot from Oklahoma and Paul Ryan

The transition from for profit healthcare to single payer is going to be difficult without crashing the system and disrupting the economy.

And we as a nation have to come up with the means to pay for it.

Basically, we're trying to skin a wildcat while it's still alive. I would kind of like to hear what everyone has to say before they hand me the knife.

Chas

[bobabode]

Make mine a double bartender.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Charles

The transition from for profit healthcare to single payer is going to be difficult without crashing the system and disrupting the economy.

And we as a nation have to come up with the means to pay for it.

Basically, we're trying to skin a wildcat while it's still alive. I would kind of like to hear what everyone has to say before they hand me the knife.

Chas

perhaps Obama is making us skin the cat Charles

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Charles

The transition from for profit healthcare to single payer is going to be difficult without crashing the system and disrupting the economy.

And we as a nation have to come up with the means to pay for it.

Basically, we're trying to skin a wildcat while it's still alive. I would kind of like to hear what everyone has to say before they hand me the knife.

Chas

It was done quite painlessly in Canada, and as I have noted here many times the cost to me was a 0.8% levy on my taxable income and $54/month for the family plan in Ontario.

It would most certainly disrupt Big Pharma's obscene profits and those of the four major drug wholesalers (why this country has to have all these greedy middlemen everywhere I simply cannot understand) but that's too bad.

[barbara]

A good article about the ACA that I ran across this morning.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1.../p2p-78681350/

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Charles

We're suckers. We agree on probably 80% of all issues, but we continue to be fools sucked into the existing political paradigm.

I dunno Chas. I don't know you, or your attitudes well enough to say anything close to that. But if we want to attempt a clarification I think we can do it. Because for me...I find myself unable to vote for any Republican politician as long as the GOP is the party that...

...wants to crush every public and private sector union into dust.
...continues to stick it's nose into every American woman's reproductive organs.
...continues to support this country's democratized gun carnage.
...continues to support outlawing public and privately funded embryonic stem cell research.
...continues to support Genesis being taught in public school science class.
...continues to support the use of tax dollars to pay for private school children's religious indoctrination.
...continues to prefer to see 30 million of the country's citizens being denied health care coverage.
...continues to pander to idiotic populist extremists.
...will continually bring the people of this country to the brink of economic disaster by flirting with defaulting on the country's financial obligations.

As far as budget matters, including military spending are concerned I find the parties so close in spending as to be virtually indistinguishable. So my disgust for the GOP is centered on the list above.

What say you...eh Chas?