Woodstock Question

[barbara]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yes, but was it not a favored chant of the Anti-War, Anti-Establishment crowd; "Hey, Hey LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?"



Last I checked LBJ was a Democrat.



Dave

Yes... You are right.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Bigerik

That was a VERY different GOP.

Extremely so.

Lincoln and Ike must be turning over in their graves.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

It wasn't GOP policies that got us into Vietnam

Pete

New management took over franchise....

[bobabode]

Nixon filled many, many more body bags than LBJ ever did.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Ike I just can tell you that Chas' remark sounds quite reasonable to me. You know... it is very difficult for me to get a correct image sitting in the very very far distance, grown up in the seventies, in a totally different culture and so on and so on...very difficult...

Thank you for the kind words. I was simply expressing a view which runs counter to the accepted norm. And judging by the other comments, I may have just smashed the golden calf.

Needless to say, I didn't attend Woodstock. Not because I was a right wing reactionary, but it was too far away, and it was over before I knew anything about it to start with. At the time, it kind of looked like fun. Had it been closer I would have probably tried to go.

Now I did go out and smoke dope with the people from the Hog Farm...after their bus broke down outside of town. I even gave them a rifle after they told us about being terrorized by the local rednecks. The Highway Patrol handled things differently. They took them to a junkyard so that they could get the parts to repair their bus...and go back to wherever they came from.

Personally, I kind of liked having them around. They were highly entertaining and had some of the best dope I've ever smoked.

Now that I've established my hippy creds, I'd like to make a few observations about the Woodstock event.

To start with it was a concert...a for profit concert. Then the site was overwhelmed by people-hippys? who cut down the fence and went in for free. They created a horrible traffic jamb, ran out of food, and wound up being supplied by the locals and the military. Once the whole thing was over the area looked like a war zone...the landscape was all torn up and garbage was thrown everywhere.

To be fair, 400,000 people managed to stay there for 3 days without anyone getting murdered. Perhaps in some ways the experience transcended reality. But in reality, I don't see that it was anything to be too proud of.

But don't listen to me, I have a "skewed" sense of the world.

Chas

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Charles

Thank you for the kind words. I was simply expressing a view which runs counter to the accepted norm. And judging by the other comments, I may have just smashed the golden calf.



Needless to say, I didn't attend Woodstock. Not because I was a right wing reactionary, but it was too far away, and it was over before I knew anything about it to start with. At the time, it kind of looked like fun. Had it been closer I would have probably tried to go.



Now I did go out and smoke dope with the people from the Hog Farm...after their bus broke down outside of town. I even gave them a rifle after they told us about being terrorized by the local rednecks. The Highway Patrol handled things differently. They took them to a junkyard so that they could get the parts to repair their bus...and go back to wherever they came from.



Personally, I kind of liked having them around. They were highly entertaining and had some of the best dope I've ever smoked.



Now that I've established my hippy creds, I'd like to make a few observations about the Woodstock event.



To start with it was a concert...a for profit concert. Then the site was overwhelmed by people-hippys? who cut down the fence and went in for free. They created a horrible traffic jamb, ran out of food, and wound up being supplied by the locals and the military. Once the whole thing was over the area looked like a war zone...the landscape was all torn up and garbage was thrown everywhere.



To be fair, 400,000 people managed to stay there for 3 days without anyone getting murdered. Perhaps in some ways the experience transcended reality. But in reality, I don't see that it was anything to be too proud of.



But don't listen to me, I have a "skewed" sense of the world.



Chas

Charles, you are right, all those things happened.
And then, there is the bigger thing that happened...
That cosmic unification thing that can't be described but was felt as the fabric of our society was soaked with enlightenment of a new age.

(Does that last sentence secure my hippy cred ? )


(Insert tongue in cheek emoticon here).

[Charles]

Originally Posted by barbara

Charles, you are right, all those things happened.
And then, there is the bigger thing that happened...
That cosmic unification thing that can't be described but was felt as the fabric of our society was soaked with enlightenment of a new age.

(Does that last sentence secure my hippy cred ? )


(Insert tongue in cheek emoticon here).

If that doesn't do it, I don't know what would!!!!

Chas

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

Thank you for the kind words. I was simply expressing a view which runs counter to the accepted norm. And judging by the other comments, I may have just smashed the golden calf.

Needless to say, I didn't attend Woodstock. Not because I was a right wing reactionary, but it was too far away, and it was over before I knew anything about it to start with. At the time, it kind of looked like fun. Had it been closer I would have probably tried to go.

Now I did go out and smoke dope with the people from the Hog Farm...after their bus broke down outside of town. I even gave them a rifle after they told us about being terrorized by the local rednecks. The Highway Patrol handled things differently. They took them to a junkyard so that they could get the parts to repair their bus...and go back to wherever they came from.

Personally, I kind of liked having them around. They were highly entertaining and had some of the best dope I've ever smoked.

Now that I've established my hippy creds, I'd like to make a few observations about the Woodstock event.

To start with it was a concert...a for profit concert. Then the site was overwhelmed by people-hippys? who cut down the fence and went in for free. They created a horrible traffic jamb, ran out of food, and wound up being supplied by the locals and the military. Once the whole thing was over the area looked like a war zone...the landscape was all torn up and garbage was thrown everywhere.

To be fair, 400,000 people managed to stay there for 3 days without anyone getting murdered. Perhaps in some ways the experience transcended reality. But in reality, I don't see that it was anything to be too proud of.

But don't listen to me, I have a "skewed" sense of the world.

Chas

There are moments, events in history that become symbolic. Woodstock is indeed one of them. A very special and meaningful event to many, myself included.

You have every right to view it without the romance and nostalgia but folks also see it, fairly I might add, as a warm and bonding cultural experience that had great personal and communal meaning. This is also a reality.

Peace brother.

It was more than good dope and bad acid.

[icenine]

The performances were really not that great except for Hendrix and the Who...

[sheltiedave]

There weren't too many black kids at Woodstock, for a variety of reasons. Even tho the concert both opened(Richie Havens) and closed(Jimi Hendrix) with black music acts, there wasn't much in between that would draw tons of folks from New York. And New York and the near east coast were the only major spontaneous geographical draw for Woodstock.

Also, 1969 was not a time for black hippies. Being a hippie meant wanting to tune out and drop out from conventional square society, and for the most part, black kids were too busy trying to get a toehold inside the door of opportunity. If you didn't come from success, there was little reason to "drop out" when you had little to start with.

Third, upstate New York was not a nirvana for black kids. Few were willing to count on the willingness of segregationist America to provide food and water for them for a lost weekend. Minorities knew they would be hassled at every turn, so they were not willing to go to an underadvertised musical exposition with no food, little water, and no money for half a week. White kids could afford to be naive and count on help from strangers.

It would have been a far more attended event had half the acts been Motown artists.