Obamacare Mandate May Be Delayed

[JBS...]

What a phucking liar...

LMAO, this is still up on the The White House Blog...

Title: Facts Are Stubborn Things... Priceless

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/


Bleeding votes I tell ya. what a bunch of losers...

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

More here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...es-rate-shock/


"Some people will find the new rules make insurance more expensive. That’s in part because their health insurance was made cheap by turning away sick people. The new rules also won’t allow for as much discrimination based on age or gender. The flip side of that, of course, is that many will suddenly find their health insurance is much cheaper, or they will find that, for the first time, they’re not turned away when they try to buy health insurance.
That's why the law is expected to insure almost 25 million people in the first decade: It makes health insurance affordable and accessible to millions who couldn't get it before. To judge it from a baseline that leaves them out -- a baseline that asks only what the wealthy and healthy will pay and ignores the benefits to the poor, the sick, the old, and women -- well, that is a bit shocking." Ezra Klein WaPo

The problem, Bob, is that these "True Patriots" who believe America is a "Christian nation" couldn't give a shit less about fellow Americans who can't afford their own. You know, just like Jesus wouldn't give a shit about the poor.

Always remember the definition from "The Party is Over" by Mike Lofgren

"True Patriot; Someone who loves America more than he loves the people who live here."

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by JBS...

What a phucking liar...

LMAO, this is still up on the The White House Blog...

Title: Facts Are Stubborn Things... Priceless

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/


Bleeding votes I tell ya. what a bunch of losers...

Whatcho talkin' 'bout, Jim?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Have you heard that there are subsidies for citizens who make up to 400% of the poverty level?

Tanstaffl, Bob

Yes, and those subsidies phase out as income rises towards $94K, and they also are limited based on the relative richness of the insurance product purchased on the exchange. So, between the increased premiums, and the subsidy phase outs, many of these folks have to pay more for a product they may not want or need. Lovely.

[whell]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

The problem, Bob, is that these "True Patriots" who believe America is a "Christian nation" couldn't give a shit less about fellow Americans who can't afford their own. You know, just like Jesus wouldn't give a shit about the poor.

Always remember the definition from "The Party is Over" by Mike Lofgren

"True Patriot; Someone who loves America more than he loves the people who live here."

Dave

This ain't about Jesus caring for the poor. This is about giving to Ceasar what is Ceasar's. Exhibit 4: Another contrast between Obamacare and Romneycare are the plethora of new taxes:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Affordable-Ca...Tax-Provisions

[BlueStreak]

So, "Taxachussetts" is a low tax environment?

[BlueStreak]

Basically, it's about wealth distribution. My costs rise to cover someone else.

Oh well.

BTW, Mike. How do you interpret; "Render unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar. Render unto God that which belongs to God."?

To my mind it means following Gods will is more important than money.

Anyone else have any input for this?

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Yes, and those subsidies phase out as income rises towards $94K, and they also are limited based on the relative richness of the insurance product purchased on the exchange. So, between the increased premiums, and the subsidy phase outs, many of these folks have to pay more for a product they may not want or need. Lovely.

You do realize that the overwhelming voting class in America does not make anywhere near $100,000 per annum, right? You've been out voted, get over yourselves. I have two words for the well to do having to pay a little more of their disposable income, 'tough titty'.


You could always pay cash or you could support a cheaper system, (single payer) if you really cared about being a leaner and meaner capitalist.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Yes, and those subsidies phase out as income rises towards $94K, and they also are limited based on the relative richness of the insurance product purchased on the exchange. So, between the increased premiums, and the subsidy phase outs, many of these folks have to pay more for a product they may not want or need. Lovely.

Why would anyone who makes over $94k need an exemption?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Yes, and those subsidies phase out as income rises towards $94K, and they also are limited based on the relative richness of the insurance product purchased on the exchange. So, between the increased premiums, and the subsidy phase outs, many of these folks have to pay more for a product they may not want or need. Lovely.

For the most part, people making $100K have employer-provided health care anyway.