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Old 10-08-2013, 09:38 PM
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The government shutdown has revealed the impressive skill of tea partyRepublicans to say untrue things with sincerity so convincing that they almost sound as if they believe what they are saying. Michele Bachmann, with her toothy grin and startling wide-eyed stare, is especially adept at this.
The other day, the queen of the House tea party was standing before the TV cameras at the World War II Memorial with her arm around a frail-looking veteran of that war. A group of ancient vets had come to the capital for an event at the memorial only to find they couldn’t get in because of the government shutdown. Bachmann fawned over the elderly man while telling reporters how utterly shameful it was for President Obama to lock out these venerable old soldiers. The shutdown was the president’s fault, she said; he was to blame for inflicting so much unnecessary inconvenience and pain.
This is the same woman who has been absolutely giddy in other interviews talking about how “very excited” she and her colleagues are, as if the shutdown is the best thing since Jesus turned water into wine. “It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it,” Bachmann said to the Washington Post.
On Sunday, House Speaker John A. Boehner was acting like a jilted girlfriend in an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC. Boehner insisted Obama’s refusal to give him a phone call is the reason government offices remain shuttered. Boehner, of course, could end the impasse all by himself simply by allowing a vote on the Senate-passed continuing resolution to fund the government. It would easily get thumbs-up from Democrats and a significant share of Republican House members, but letting that happen would earn Boehner major grief, not only from the radicals in his caucus, but from the rich conservative money men who spearheaded the drive for this showdown.
And that is the highly pertinent fact that Boehner, Bachmann and the rest of the Republicans conveniently fail to mention. As detailed in a Sunday New York Times story, a well-financed cohort of conservative activists have been planning for months to use a government shutdown as a cudgel to cripple the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. Among those behind the effort are, predictably, the Koch brothers, the right-wing billionaire industrialists who, the newspaper reports, gave out $200 million last year to anti-Obamacare groups. Another key leader is a figure from the dark past, Ronald Reagan's former attorney general, Edwin Meese III.
Also pushing the Obamacare battle is Michael A. Needham, who runs the political arm of the conservative Heritage Foundation. Unlike Bachmann and her buddies, Needham did not play coy when asked about what is going on, telling the New York Times, “We felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”
And it’s the fight they got. Republicans should stop feigning innocence and be brave enough to own it.

David Horsey at The LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topof...,2739790.story

Own it, pissants.
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:50 AM
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Check out this whiney, delusional and mendacious diatribe from Eric Cantor in the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eric-cantor-divided-government-requires-bipartisan-negotiation/2013/10/08/98f6b7e6-3062-11e3-bbed-a8a60c601153_story.html

Sorry Eric but your far right wingnut 'bagger ideology cost Romney Virginia last November. Romney was running around the country saying he would repeal the ACA on his first day in office. How did that work out for ya? You lost big time and nothing will change that fact.

Now the Democrats have reached across the aisle and given you your mean spirited funding levels ala the Ryan budget and yet still you can't say yes? You want to end SNAP but still keep your gifts to the land barons at Big Ag? Really? Grow up and do your job, losers.

Enough is enough, kiddies. Climb back into your little John Bircher cocoons and launch yourselves on a hyperbolic tour of the Oort cloud.

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Old 10-09-2013, 04:07 AM
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A Republican said, according to the latest German TV news, that Obama demands for "unconditional capitulation", was that Boehmer? (I think that this assertion is sheer nonsense.)

Anyway, as a sensitive German I hate such War rethorics, it is so disgusting. "BEDINGUNGSLOSE KAPITULATION" - this was a WWII expression from May 1945.

What happens in the political Washington reminds me more and more of the Civil War. Okay - that one was not an everlasting shit.

Here is a little joke which comes just this moment into my mind: Ocean liner, shouts from the bathroom. Captain enters the bathroom. "Captain, Captain, my bathtub is leaking!". "Ahhh no Sir, the bathtub is fine. It's the ship, it's sinking!"

Ahoy America.

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Old 10-09-2013, 07:44 AM
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Check out this whiney, delusional and mendacious diatribe from Eric Cantor in the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eric-cantor-divided-government-requires-bipartisan-negotiation/2013/10/08/98f6b7e6-3062-11e3-bbed-a8a60c601153_story.html

Sorry Eric but your far right wingnut 'bagger ideology cost Romney Virginia last November.
Just like it will lose them the governorship this Fall.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:51 AM
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More racial cards?

Obama has been clear about not negotiating. He's as cynical as the GOP.

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Old 10-09-2013, 08:59 AM
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More racial cards?

Obama has been clear about not negotiating. He's as cynical as the GOP.

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Right. The gangster says 'Nice store. Be a shame if something happened to it. Got $100 for fire insurance?'

If the storeowner says 'Go to hell,' he's just as much to blame, for not negotiating. That how you see it?
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:03 AM
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Why else wouldn't he reopen the CDC?

I see it as I see it, not what someone says I see. It's not like no one saw this coming. The Reps in the House were elected too.

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Old 10-09-2013, 09:08 AM
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Why else wouldn't he reopen the CDC?

I see it as I see it, not what someone says I see. It's not like no one saw this coming. The Reps in the House were elected too.

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Hey, how does this bear on my illustration about the supposed blame for not negotiating with gangsters?

Anyway, there's a dilemma. He can reopen the CDC, which helps make the extortion racket look OK. Or he can say 'defunded is defunded,' and he's the bad guy who won't reopen the CDC.

Who created the dilemma?

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Old 10-09-2013, 09:09 AM
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Among those behind the effort are, predictably, the Koch brothers, the right-wing billionaire industrialists who, the newspaper reports, gave out $200 million last year to anti-Obamacare groups. Another key leader is a figure from the dark past, Ronald Reagan's former attorney general, Edwin Meese III.
Also pushing the Obamacare battle is Michael A. Needham, who runs the political arm of the conservative Heritage Foundation. Unlike Bachmann and her buddies, Needham did not play coy when asked about what is going on, telling the New York Times, “We felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:45 AM
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Right. The gangster says 'Nice store. Be a shame if something happened to it. Got $100 for fire insurance?'

If the storeowner says 'Go to hell,' he's just as much to blame, for not negotiating. That how you see it?
Give up everything, or I'll shoot you! And, make it quick, I'm trying to save your life here!
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