What you talkin "bout???????

[Writewing]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

You are wrong. Death Panels. Not in the bill. Government control of health care. Not in the bill. Deficit expansion. Not in the bill. Government between you and your doctor. Not in the bill. Increased costs. Not in the bill. Rationing of health care. Not in the bill. etc. etc. etc.

I will sing it this time....Ehhhemmm
(((((((((((((((((STiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiLLLL DeeeEEEEEEaaaaaAAAAAAd))))))))))))))))

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Writewing

I will sing it this time....Ehhhemmm
(((((((((((((((((STiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiLLLL DeeeEEEEEEaaaaaAAAAAAd))))))))))))))))

I hadn't thought about it that way. Quite a compelling argument. Actually, all you're saying there is the one thing we can agree on. It's likely dead. You don't have a lot of depth to your convictions, do you? Just kinda want to win, even if it's at the expense of what is best for America.

Congratulations! You won!

We all lose!

[Fast_Eddie]

Or let me put it in a way you may understand:

Oooooobbbbbbaaaaaaammmmmmaaaa issssss stttiiilllll PPPPrrrreessssiiideeennnttt!!!!!

Oh, zing! Gotcha back! Ha ha!

That more on your level? Not so many pesky facts.

[Fast_Eddie]

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[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

084M4 i2 57ilL PR35iD3N7!

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Word! He still be in the hizzle, dog!

John

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Writewing

Damn, you were right Eddie. I hadn't really thought it through. I can't think of a single argument to the information you posted. I'll go on to some other thread.

No problem. Nice talking to you.

[Writewing]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Or let me put it in a way you may understand:

Oooooobbbbbbaaaaaaammmmmmaaaa issssss stttiiilllll PPPPrrrreessssiiideeennnttt!!!!!

Oh, zing! Gotcha back! Ha ha!

That more on your level? Not so many pesky facts.

Sadly you are correct

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

I appreciate your sentiment, but I don't really think that's what happened. As I explained, I believe if "the people" know what was actually in the bill they would say "oh, that's what I want".

But we can keep saying how the Democrats for some reason that no one can explain intentionally built some bill that benefits no one, including themselves, just to fuck with us if that makes everyone feel better.

Agreed that their communication left a lot to be desired. But my guess is they were more cautious than they should have been because they *thought* they had a bullet proof majority and they knew the Republicans were, by their own admission, trying to kill the effort for political gain regardless of the harm it would do to the American people.

As I've said, it's unfortunate that the Republicans sold lies so much better than the Democrats sold their bill.

If they were so sure of what people wanted why did they put all their eggs in the super majority basket ? THats not thinking with their heads.

Sorry but I disagree with you on your what if scenario. Which people are you referring to ? Those that are on welfare or those who fund it ?

Bring both of these parties together and this world will be a much better place.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

If they were so sure of what people wanted why did they put all their eggs in the super majority basket ? THats not thinking with their heads.

Sorry but I disagree with you on your what if scenario. Which people are you referring to ? Those that are on welfare or those who fund it ?

Bring both of these parties together and this world will be a much better place.

Early in this process Republicans decided that this would be Obama's waterloo. Takes two to tango. I said it a million times- there is no Health Care Reform proposal that the Republicans would agree with. They're not at all concerned about fixing the problems, only with gaining power. Perhaps now they will get on board with something so they can say they had a voice in it and the Democrats fucked everything up. But that too will be only for political gain and will have nothing to do with helping Americans.

They lied. They just lied. They sold the lies well. They spent a ton of money, got in bed with the Insurance companies and spent a million dollars a day selling lies. They did it because they didn't like the idea that someone else was running the country for a while. The shitter is that it worked. So they'll go on lying. It's a plan that has worked well for them time and again. They lied about Iraq. They lied about tax cuts. They lied about deregulation. They lied about health care. They lie.

How do you bring both parties together when one has said on the record that they will kill this just to make Obama look bad? And how does anyone who calls them self an American vote for a party who has made this claim? And finally, how then does one say they should work together!? I voted for the people who said they wanted only to make the President look bad and the President is to blame for not working with them!!!! Incredible logic!

In case anyone forgot:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...he-troops.html

Working for America! Wake up people. They're screwing you.

[Writewing]

As a member of the Rightwing liars who killed Healthcare reform and is hell bent on killing many Obama policy mistakes....................your welcome