Christian Nation?

[BlueStreak]

I have no problem with Christianity, per se. I do have a problem with Christianity (Or any other religion) being kidnapped and pimped out by politicians and their lapdogs in the press to advance an agenda that I see as patently un-Christian. True, the Left isn't exactly a Saintly institution, far from it. But I have as of yet to see them claim exclusive counsel from the Almighty himself, either.

Beck-"Why do you think they oppose us? Is it because they....fear God?" Palin-"Yes! That's exactly what it is."

And that woman isn't "Just a talk show host" either. She was the Governor of Alaska and ran for Vice President of the United States. If McCain had won, then died, this lunatic would have ended up holding the most powerful position on earth.

The insinuation behind the above quote being that to oppose the Republican Party is to oppose God himself.

I don't know about you, but to me this is deeply disturbing. Historically, all sorts of terrible atrocities follow this sort of mentality.

Dave

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Seems like every few months another country passes a marriage equality law. Even Spain, for goodness sake. How much more Catholic a country can you think of than Spain and yet they have full marriage rights for gay and lesbian people.

The list of countries which allow gay marriage or same sex domestic partnerships is large and growing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_...e-sex_marriage



John

"But Momma! Everybody is doing it!"

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I have no problem with Christianity, per se. I do have a problem with Christianity (Or any other religion) being kidnapped and pimped out by politicians and their lapdogs in the press to advance an agenda that I see as patently un-Christian.

My take on this is that organized religions have, uh, organizers. Organized religion is really mostly about action and emotion. Do this, don't do that, hate this, love that and you'll go to heaven. There's little actual thought required or desired by the poohbahs that run the show.

Religion once was and still should be about thought and a philosophy of life and perhaps afterlife. Organized religions have pretty much weeded such dangerous practices out.

Beck-"Why do you think they oppose us? Is it because they....fear God?" Palin-"Yes! That's exactly what it is."

I've heard this out-take numerous times but I haven't heard who the "they" is supposed to be. In my imagination it's probably those Mooslums but it could be liberals, I suppose.

And that woman isn't "Just a talk show host" either. She was the Governor of Alaska and ran for Vice President of the United States. If McCain had won, then died, this lunatic would have ended up holding the most powerful position on earth.

Truly frightening! Many of the few remaining sane and responsible Republicans in this country were outraged by McCain's choice, especially after it emerged that he knew next to nothing about her.

The insinuation behind the above quote being that to oppose the Republican Party is to oppose God himself.

So, it was liberals? Mon Dieu doux!

John

[westgate]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I guess we are a Christian nation after all. Our soldiers in Afghanistan have rifle scopes with bible verses inscribed on them by the manufacturer, Trijicon. Onward Christian Soldiers, indeed.

yeah. that could bring on ww III without too much trouble.

[BlueStreak]

Yes, the context of the conversation at that point, was basically about the Democratic Party and Liberals in general, John.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by JJIII

"But Momma! Everybody is doing it!"

Yeah, I think I'll do it too! Actually, justification wasn't really a part of my response. I was just pointing out to Pete that he was mistaken when he said most countries were opposed to gay marriage.

I may have been off the beam though. I didn't notice Pete's reference to abortion. Prop 8 isn't about abortion, of course. It's a constitutional ban on gay marriage in that far left paradise known as California.*

*Bought and paid for by the Catholic Church and the LDS.

John

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Most cultures, including many non Christian ones, would agree with prop 8.

Maybe so. Our culture may be one of those. That doesn't change anything.

Most cultures, ours included, think it's wrong to have sex with a woman who is not your wife. Most think it's wrong to lie.

But our *country* is based on freedom and liberty. That includeds the freedom to do things that are stupid or wrong. We don't legislate morality. There's no law that says we have to be nice to each other, and if anything our leaders demonstate otherwise. Culture regulates itself. Country does it by laws. I'm not planning to flip someone off if they cut me off in traffic. But I am glad that I live in a country that does not legislate that I can not.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yes, the context of the conversation at that point, was basically about the Democratic Party and Liberals in general, John.

And when the thought that they were talking about liberals entered my brain I said, "Nah, they can't be that crazy!"

To paraphrase that Godless commie in the White House, "Yes, they can!"

John

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, I think I'll do it too! Actually, justification wasn't really a part of my response. I was just pointing out to Pete that he was mistaken when he said most countries were opposed to gay marriage.

195 countries, 21 allow it + some states.

I was just pointing out it wasn't strictly a Christian thing.

Pete

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I was just pointing out it wasn't strictly a Christian thing.

"It" being hatred? I agree with you there.