Who would want to be in Congress? - Page 5

Fast_Eddie · #41 01-21-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Can you imagine if a Congressman simply spoke the truth as he saw it?

Can you say, the boot?

We crusify the ones who do. Look at the grief Ried got for his statement recently. And Biden has been raked over the coals for speaking his mind his whole career. Yeah, we say we want a straight shooter, but when we get one we kill them. What we reward is a very savvy politician who can act like he's a straight shooter. You can see how that gets us to a lot of slime balls. Lately, being a straight shooter means you stand in front of TV cameras are are very angry- you're reflecting the anger of the people! But, no, not really. You're just putting on a show and then going back to pushing your agenda.

Boreas · #42 01-21-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Term limits sound like a good idea when everyone is frustraited. But really, that makes no one responsible for anything beyond a few years down the road. Many in California say their current financial mess is due in large part to term limits. No one worries what the long term effects will be since they *know* they won't be there to deal with them. They just make as much noise as they can along the way in hopes of securing their next job. The day they start, they know they're going to be fired. So job #1 is finding the next job.

+1!!! Get in office, kiss some serious lobby ass and land your next gig for a few mil a year in the industry you pimped for.

John

piece-itpete · #43 01-21-2010, 10:15 AM

Truman spoke straight. I saw a quote of his, when asked about Cuba going over to the commies, he said on record, 'That's what happens when you have a g*d d*mn fool in the White House' lol!

Pete

Fast_Eddie · #44 01-21-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Truman spoke straight. I saw a quote of his, when asked about Cuba going over to the commies, he said on record, 'That's what happens when you have a g*d d*mn fool in the White House' lol!

Pete

Oh yeah. I think the modern era is different than a few decades ago. Shoot, I don't think it really got to be as bad as it is now until Carter or Reagan. Carter got into office because he looked and acted honest. "I'm just a peanut farmer from Georgia". Trouble is, it turned out he was just a peanut farmer from Georgia. Reagan really played the same card in a different way. "I'm just one of you guys." That's been the Republican mold since. Bush II was the first one they packaged up specifically to play that role. Shoot, I saw a clip of this Brown fellow saying "I drive a pick up truck". Really? Why? What do you need a pick up truck for if you're going to be a Senator? To carry all your bull shit in? It's gotten silly and it's amazing how easy it is to fool people. "I drive a pick-up truck" is an actual campain position?

BlueStreak · #45 01-21-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Truman spoke straight. I saw a quote of his, when asked about Cuba going over to the commies, he said on record, 'That's what happens when you have a g*d d*mn fool in the White House' lol!

Pete

1959. So, Ike Eisenhower (One of my favorite Republicans.) was a fool, Pete?

Dave

BlueStreak · #46 01-21-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Reagan really played the same card in a different way. "I'm just one of you guys." That's been the Republican mold since.

It was bullshit with Reagan, and it's still bullshit with Brown.

Dave

finnbow · #47 01-21-2010, 10:32 AM

Look at the trouble Michael Steele got into when he stated "Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh, his whole thing is entertainment. Yes, it's incendiary." Or how about the Alabama gubernatorial candidate who boldly stated "I believe there are parts of the Bible that are meant to be literally true and parts that are not." He was forced to recant and say "I believe the Bible is true, every word of it." Similarly, McCain was forced to later recant the revelation that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson were "agents of intolerance."

Seems like truth hurts (in politics, at least).

Fast_Eddie · #48 01-21-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

It was bullshit with Reagan, and it's still bullshit with Brown.

Dave

Exactly right- it's very interesting. The one time we really did give the job to a "regular guy" it didn't go so well. So now we give it to the best actor. But you know, that's not going so well either.

Sorry folks, and many will disagree, but people like Al Gore are better suited for the job. Oh, but we can't elect someone who is so elite! Seriously? Yeah, I'm thinking might be time try finding the smartest guy in the room and seeing what he can do. You can keep your big smile, pick up drivin', flannel shirt wearin' regular guy cutting wood at the ranch. Give me the guy with three inch thick glasses and a pocket protector. We need a geek. How 'bout Cliff Stoll for President!?

Only one who really struck a good balance was Clinton. Rhodes Scholar but could play the "regular guy" role well.

piece-itpete · #49 01-21-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

1959. So, Ike Eisenhower (One of my favorite Republicans.) was a fool, Pete?

Dave

Nope! But the Truman comment is still very funny imo and a great example of a straight talker, agree or disagree.

That's too bad though, we could've disagreed on a GOP President, but the other way around!

Pete

rickr15 · #50 01-21-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

+1!!! Get in office, kiss some serious lobby ass and land your next gig for a few mil a year in the industry you pimped for.

John

The only reason to spend millions beating out other contestants for a job that pays 200K. These guys are a lot of things but stupid is not one of them.

Plus as I said before the health and retirement plan kicks ass.