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Old 08-09-2013, 11:02 PM
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I recently modded a set of JBL L110's with 035Ti tweeters and a set of 4313B crossovers.

I recapped the crossovers and installed everything. I noticed they sounded harsh for about 10 hours or so of listening. Now they sound just like I was told the mods would make them sound, good.
Whenever I modded my Klipsch Quartets, ti di's for the tweeters and recapped crossovers, they sounded about the same five minutes later as they do today. The titanium diaphragms did smooth out and extend the highs, then again I did it all at once, so I couldn't really tell how much difference the caps made.

Then again, I was running them with a PE 10" MKIII sub, until the THIRD plate amp went to shit. Those Dayton plate amps are junk.

I finally bit the bullet and started using tone controls. The mids and highs were slightly better when paired with the sub, but I've had it with those plate amps. Even thought about moving my C-1 back into the system just because it has a loudness control, except that I know it doesn't have the clarity of my existing pre.

All said and done, everything sounds fine. Time to quit while I'm ahead.

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Old 08-09-2013, 11:17 PM
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I suppose not but it makes one wonder why there are such things as "hospital grade" outlets and power cables used on the machines in hospitals.

You're a hospital worker, right, why the need for such things?

Not being sarcastic or trying to fight, just something I wonder.
I have never really thought about it....but yeah all the cords are thick.
To make an x-ray a tungsten filament in a vacuum tube has to be really heated up to make the electrons that make a gamma ray when they are shot from the cathode end of the tube. So all x-ray units have step up transformers that bump up the wall current considerably.

Hospitals are inspected for safety all the time so that is the reason I suspect for most of the hospital grade cables. Also in the OR the humidity has to be kept sort of high since low humidity can lead to a fire when using some cauterizing equipment. Our place got fined for having low humidity in the OR that the State said could be hazardous if there was a spark.

This is what I ride when I am duty...this needs high power cables too....
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:18 PM
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:25 PM
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Do not worry I cannot fight with you...anyone who likes HP Lovecraft is cool with me!
You know I am starting to look for those old Arkham House hardback editions from the 1940s at the SA...but that is a fantasy. But I would like to get some of those just for fun.

Time for some Public Enemy.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:25 PM
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Whenever I modded my Klipsch Quartets, ti di's for the tweeters and recapped crossovers, they sounded about the same five minutes later as they do today. The titanium diaphragms did smooth out and extend the highs, then again I did it all at once, so I couldn't really tell how much difference the caps made.

Then again, I was running them with a PE 10" MKIII sub, until the THIRD plate amp went to shit. Those Dayton plate amps are junk.

I finally bit the bullet and started using tone controls. The mids and highs were slightly better when paired with the sub, but I've had it with those plate amps. Even thought about moving my C-1 back into the system just because it has a loudness control, except that I know it doesn't have the clarity of my existing pre.

All said and done, everything sounds fine. Time to quit while I'm ahead.

Chas

I modded Chorus II's with the Ti's and the full SoniCap set up and was pleased with the results. I know have a highly modded set of Forte's with Ti's and ALK networks (superior to me to the Crites that was removed). Just need a set of Ti mid phrams.

Subs in my listening rig is a no no for me (I want speakers that can do it) but that is just for me personally. I know many use them.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:33 PM
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http://www.irocke.com/

This is a week long, streaming festival that is free. Something for all as the music spans all genres. Many "classic" performers as well.

Enjoy, guys and gals!
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:37 PM
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Do not worry I cannot fight with you...anyone who likes HP Lovecraft is cool with me!
You know I am starting to look for those old Arkham House hardback editions from the 1940s at the SA...but that is a fantasy. But I would like to get some of those just for fun.

Time for some Public Enemy.
That would be a true treasure right there!

I'd love to have an original Miskatonic University "freshman pack". Not sure if that's actually what it's called or who put them out but back when we were in our teens a good friend got one complete with binder, bumper stickers, course schedule and the like...damn cool...I know he still has it....

Did you get "Fear Of A Black Planet"?
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:45 PM
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I suppose not but it makes one wonder why there are such things as "hospital grade" outlets and power cables used on the machines in hospitals.

You're a hospital worker, right, why the need for such things?

Not being sarcastic or trying to fight, just something I wonder.
A hospital grade duplex is simply a better made duplex which withstands having devices plugged in and out a lot without the contacts becoming loose. They ain't magic.

Now whenever we rehabbed the bank, the ATM guy wanted an insulated/isolated circuit run to his machine. Now the best I remember, it took a special 120V duplex which had two case grounds. You had your hot, your grounded/neutral, the case ground, and a separate ground which looked like it only went to the body of the outlet, basically the screw which held the cover plate on. Seems like I checked the duplex for continuity, but it's the only time I've ever dealt with something like that, and my memory isn't as sharp as it once was.

The most important part of the wiring was that it was a dedicated circuit, with it's own separate breaker and all three grounds going all of the way back to the service panel.

A dedicated circuit should be enough for a stereo system. The most important part is the ground. If you get a bad ground, especially outside of the building, you'll start seeing weird things like 175V on one leg of the service panel, and 75V on the other. And if you get a short, it will feed back into the neutral/grounded wire and start cooking things.

I've seen this happen twice. The last time was when we were rehabbing the abstract office. We reinstalled their junk water heater, the wire inside of the conduit had a bare spot in the insulation and created a ground fault. Which should have blown the breaker, except there was a bad connection in the ground in the city's wiring. It took the load and started throwing sparks like an arc welder...unfortunately is was also feeding 120V back on the grounds. Cooked a couple of computers, thank God it didn't get the server. It was on the other leg. Basically, one leg lost power and the other was converted to 240V.

I guess what I'm saying is a hospital grade duplex IS snake oil, unless you're going to be plugging and unplugging devices into them a lot. They're just a duplex, abet a little better one.

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That would be a true treasure right there!

I'd love to have an original Miskatonic University "freshman pack". Not sure if that's actually what it's called or who put them out but back when we were in our teens a good friend got one complete with binder, bumper stickers, course schedule and the like...damn cool...I know he still has it....

Did you get "Fear Of A Black Planet"?
not yet....I am sure it is out there waiting for me....

yeah a Miskatonic bumper sticker would be awesome...as well as one of those rear window university stickers one always sees.....

or a Miskatonic Univerisity dad sticker ...that would be hilarious.
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A hospital grade duplex is simply a better made duplex which withstands having devices plugged in and out a lot without the contacts becoming loose. They ain't magic.

Now whenever we rehabbed the bank, the ATM guy wanted an insulated/isolated circuit run to his machine. Now the best I remember, it took a special 120V duplex which had two case grounds. You had your hot, your grounded/neutral, the case ground, and a separate ground which looked like it only went to the body of the outlet, basically the screw which held the cover plate on. Seems like I checked the duplex for continuity, but it's the only time I've ever dealt with something like that, and my memory isn't as sharp as it once was.

The most important part of the wiring was that it was a dedicated circuit, with it's own separate breaker and all three grounds going all of the way back to the service panel.

A dedicated circuit should be enough for a stereo system. The most important part is the ground. If you get a bad ground, especially outside of the building, you'll start seeing weird things like 175V on one leg of the service panel, and 75V on the other. And if you get a short, it will feed back into the neutral/grounded wire and start cooking things.

I've seen this happen twice. The last time was when we were rehabbing the abstract office. We reinstalled their junk water heater, the wire inside of the conduit had a bare spot in the insulation and created a ground fault. Which should have blown the breaker, except there was a bad connection in the ground in the city's wiring. It took the load and started throwing sparks like an arc welder...unfortunately is was also feeding 120V back on the grounds. Cooked a couple of computers, thank God it didn't get the server. It was on the other leg. Basically, one leg lost power and the other was converted to 240V.

I guess what I'm saying is a hospital grade duplex IS snake oil, unless you're going to be plugging and unplugging devices into them a lot. They're just a duplex, abet a little better one.

Chas
OK, I've only looked at them but have not installed them. Always wondered why they were different but never took the time to find out.

I guess we all have things others aren't into (I do not have hospital receptacles in my house). I have bought better cables (not those super expensive ones but more pricey than I ever thought I'd spend) and could hear a difference. I prolly fooled myself but what the hell, it put a smile on my face.

Having a small background in audio engineering it just made sense as studios were not pulling out the monster cables and live we never used them either. I just correlated this into "maybe it would help at home also"

Again, as you all know, this was my personal thoughts and findings. YMMV

I've been pretty good about avoiding this subject for years now. I'd prefer to talk the merits of speaker recapping
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