Did the American Revolution flop in the long run?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Whether by revolution or legislation the effects of a huge slave population makes America a more difficult and complex society.

Perhaps, but how then do you explain that the current South African constitution has become a model for new democracies rather than ours?

[merrylander]

I am trying to recall the date but slavery was outlawed in Canada so it must have existed at one point in time.

Regardless I fail to see how having had a large slave population prenented the country from having decent healthcare, or good social programs.

Someone noted the "land of opportunity" thing which has now become a myth as several Eiropean countries have pushed us down in that list as well.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I am trying to recall the date but slavery was outlawed in Canada so it must have existed at one point in time.

Regardless I fail to see how having had a large slave population prenented the country from having decent healthcare, or good social programs.

Someone noted the "land of opportunity" thing which has now become a myth as several Eiropean countries have pushed us down in that list as well.

1793

http://www.pbs.org/wned/underground-...lavery-canada/

[Dondilion]

When a sizable section of the population is not considered to be human then the overall quality of government and societal views must be terribly affected, irrespective of the route taken by the colonies.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I am trying to recall the date but slavery was outlawed in Canada so it must have existed at one point in time.

Regardless I fail to see how having had a large slave population prenented the country from having decent healthcare, or good social programs.

Someone noted the "land of opportunity" thing which has now become a myth as several Eiropean countries have pushed us down in that list as well.

And pushed us down the list with better PUBLIC education systems and funding.

Instead, we have a bunch of morons on an anti-intellectual bent, badmouthing and advocating disinvestment in ours. Very nice. Bodes well for Americas future. They'd better keep lionizing ignorant cornpone-ism because soon that's all we'll have left in this country.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Slavery............Also had to be brought down through extreme political pressure and ultimately, violence, in this country. Whereas other "civilized" nations had already outlawed it through legislation............relatively peaceful means.

There's a point to ponder. Think I will.

Dave

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Slavery............Also had to be brought down through extreme political pressure and ultimately, violence, in this country. Whereas other "civilized" nations had already outlawed it through legislation............relatively peaceful means.

There's a point to ponder. Think I will.

Dave

Our Founding Fathers deliberately punted on the issue of slavery. As you said, this long-brewing and unresolved issue ultimately led to the second bloodiest war in our history (and it was self-inflicted).

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Our Founding Fathers deliberately punted on the issue of slavery. As you said, this long-brewing and unresolved issue ultimately led to the second bloodiest war in our history (and it was self-inflicted).

They punted again with the Missouri Compromise (3/5th of a man,IIRC) and put Missourans and Kansans at each others throats years before the shelling of Fort Sumpter in Charleston Harbor.

Edit-Doh. I should click on links before repeating what you just said, Pat. Pardon me.

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by bobabode

They punted again with the Missouri Compromise (3/5th of a man,IIRC) and put Missourans and Kansans at each others throats years before the shelling of Fort Sumpter in Charleston Harbor.

Edit-Doh. I should click on links before repeating what you just said, Pat. Pardon me.

Ah yes...good times....MO get's to be in the Union and keep her slaves.

Bunch of folks in MO still very proud of that ( and the signs on the bridge and the......) They don't really care for Obama either

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

Ah yes...good times....MO get's to be in the Union and keep her slaves.

Bunch of folks in MO still very proud of that ( and the signs on the bridge and the......) They don't really care for Obama either

There used to be a national restaurant chain called the 'Missouri Compromise', I never did get the reason for calling it that unless they wanted to keep black folks out. Never patronized them myself.