Did the American Revolution flop in the long run?

[icenine]

They are much better at us in regards to health care.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

If I am beginning to sound like the Arkay or Wigwam Jones of political chat just shoot me.

First you must lead me to believe my life might be in danger, then I can shoot you.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Interesting one from David Horsey of the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,7712264.story

Originally Posted by finnbow

Lots of truth in this article. My college freshman son had a band in high school where the drummer was the son of an English airline executive living and working here for the past 8 years. The dad retired and they all moved back to England and the son goes to the University of East Anglia. They're back in the states for a month now and have been staying with us off and on. The differences are indeed few and far between.

Oh, my! What about their exceptionalism?

Dave

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by icenine

The biggest moral stain in our history was slavery and jim crow.

Actually, I can think of at least one more...

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Actually, I can think of at least one more...

Yes you are right.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Actually, I can think of at least one more...

Indeed. We have a long road ahead of us.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think the thing that makes us very positive in the eyes of the world is that we our a classless society in that we do not discriminate on the basis of the ACQUISITION of wealth...in other words we offer more or less equality of opportunity for all people regardless of birth.

Ummmmmm............I'd say that just because one can move up, or in some cases down, from one class to the next does not mean we are a "classless society". I do believe this is one of the greatest illusions of the American society. Class warfare does indeed exist, here in America and the belief that it does not, is the reason so many are losing the fight and slipping into working poverty.

They will cook you a hotdog, smile in your face and tell you "...we're all in the same boat." at the company picnic. But, just let them catch you in the executive bathroom and watch what happens.

Now, if you are saying we are a country that has no class........one trip to WalMart is your point made.

Dave

[icenine]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Ummmmmm............I'd say that just because one can move up, or in some cases down, from one class to the next does not mean we are a "classless society". I do believe this is one of the greatest illusions of the American society. Class warfare does indeed exist, here in America and the belief that it does not, is the reason so many are losing the fight and slipping into working poverty.

They will cook you a hotdog, smile in your face and tell you "...we're all in the same boat." at the company picnic. But, just let them catch you in the executive bathroom and watch what happens.

Now, if you are saying we are a country that has no class........one trip to WalMart is your point made.

Dave

you are right Dave I did not say we do not have classes.....I was talking about equality of opportunity that is present here more than some other countries so I do agree with you. Maybe it is not as present as it was say in the 90s however

[Zeke]

Personally, due to the massive distance between wanton so************************m and unfettered capitalism, I believe things are just about right if 40% of the population is currently displeased with whatever the government is doing: to me, that implies the center of the Bell Curve is generally okay with you.

It's when the median becomes skewed that things get scary, although there are sometimes reasons for it.

What I don't get is when folks at either end of the thick middle start claiming things like totalitarian or so************************t regimes. Seriously? That just proves you don't know what those words mean.

Overall, I can't call the American Revolution a flop when, in general, I'm pretty pleased with what goes on, here.

[icenine]

Well thanks to entropy everything will be a flop....eventually.....