US to begin direct peace talks with Taliban over Afghanistan

[Rajoo]

Finally a real road map for our exit from Afghanistan. Not just a troop pull out but a blueprint for peace? Only time and patience would tell.

The talks to be conducted in Doha, Qatar thereby effectively sidestepping "Mayor" Karzai.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...an-afghanistan

[JBS...]

Well hopefully they can get it done in time for "International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women" this November 25

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Well hopefully they can get it done in time for "International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women" this November 25

You mean they are actually going to observe that day here?

Cat got your tongue?

[whell]

Fantasyland. The Taliban wants the US out of Afghanistan as much as we want out of Afghanistan. I suspect the pragmatists will rule the day in this process. After the US leaves, it won't take long for the Taliban to reutrn to business as usual.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Fantasyland. The Taliban wants the US out of Afghanistan as much as we want out of Afghanistan. I suspect the pragmatists will rule the day in this process. After the US leaves, it won't take long for the Taliban to reutrn to business as usual.

At least we'll be out of there. It's a fool's errand to try to create a Jeffersonian democracy in that hellhole. Besides, I think we'd be a lot more capable, not to mention willing, to drone their asses if they misbehaved too badly.

[Dondilion]

When you are wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,

And the women come out to cut up what remains,

Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains

And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Rudyard Kipling


Afghanistan has been the grave yard of many foreigners.
There are some areas on God's earth which is best left to its ways and customs.

Now I see we are inching to get in the sectarian slaughterhouse in Syria.

We have spent billions of dollars in Iraq and the last I heard the Sunnis and Shias are
playing detonation derby.

[piece-itpete]

Keep in mind I'm generally fairly supportive of a Presidents' foreign policy. It should be off limits to politicking (not that either side really subscribes to that).

Just the same, I think cutting the budding government there off at the knees is awful and bedding down with those animals, disgusting.

Obama talks about withdrawal and is silly enough to announce a date, which he'll claim to have met (bet?) while leaving whatever 'support' troops tickles his fancy.

He's been weak in the ME overall and perhaps has damaged us there in a serious way.

We didn't hesitate to get seriously involved in Libya.

Pete

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Keep in mind I'm generally fairly supportive of a Presidents' foreign policy. It should be off limits to politicking (not that either side really subscribes to that).

Just the same, I think cutting the budding government there off at the knees is awful and bedding down with those animals, disgusting.

Obama talks about withdrawal and is silly enough to announce a date, which he'll claim to have met (bet?) while leaving whatever 'support' troops tickles his fancy.

He's been weak in the ME overall and perhaps has damaged us there in a serious way.

We didn't hesitate to get seriously involved in Libya.

Pete

"cutting the budding"
The Taliban has infiltrated so many institutions and has shown that its violence has no limits that it makes no sense to prolong our stay there.

"weak in ME"
He has not been weak in the ME. John McCaine and the Israeli lobby has been trying to get us embroiled in the ME. He has tried to resist. Good God we are over extended.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

When you are wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,

And the women come out to cut up what remains,

Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains

And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Rudyard Kipling


Afghanistan has been the grave yard of many foreigners.
There are some areas on God's earth which is best left to its ways and customs.

Now I see we are inching to get in the sectarian slaughterhouse in Syria.

We have spent billions of dollars in Iraq and the last I heard the Sunnis and Shias are
playing detonation derby.

I just fininshed reading Kim by Kipling....he is very modern sounding even after a century and you can tell how much he respects the people of South Asia (in that novel)

[merrylander]

I hear that a young engineer has started a booming new business in Afghanistan making land mines that look like prayer rugs.

They say the prophets are going through the roof.