Nothing New, Under the Sun

[mpholland]

My second amendment solution is not to take the government down, it is to keep myself alive after the corporations have people so broke they have to resort to looting and anarchy in order to survive. I am generous enough that I will share what I have with those down on their luck, but I won't let lazy criminal types take it from me without a fight. Not saying that will happen, just that it could. The guns I own wouldn't do shit against todays government, not even a million of 'em. All that aside, isn't all the government spying considered more of a fourth amendment issue? Not to mention that the actual records of calls and emails aren't subject to the fourth amendment, only the private information inside the records. That is my layman look at it anyway.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by mpholland

My second amendment solution is not to take the government down, it is to keep myself alive after the corporations have people so broke they have to resort to looting and anarchy in order to survive. I am generous enough that I will share what I have with those down on their luck, but I won't let lazy criminal types take it from me without a fight. Not saying that will happen, just that it could. The guns I own wouldn't do shit against todays government, not even a million of 'em. All that aside, isn't all the government spying considered more of a fourth amendment issue? Not to mention that the actual records of calls and emails aren't subject to the fourth amendment, only the private information inside the records. That is my layman look at it anyway.

Yep, that's my understanding, too. Much like a letter in the postal system.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by mpholland

My second amendment solution is not to take the government down, it is to keep myself alive after the corporations have people so broke they have to resort to looting and anarchy in order to survive. I am generous enough that I will share what I have with those down on their luck, but I won't let lazy criminal types take it from me without a fight. Not saying that will happen, just that it could. The guns I own wouldn't do shit against todays government, not even a million of 'em. All that aside, isn't all the government spying considered more of a fourth amendment issue? Not to mention that the actual records of calls and emails aren't subject to the fourth amendment, only the private information inside the records. That is my layman look at it anyway.

Drive to Detroit and have a look around. The corporations have been starving uppity peasants for a while now. Methinks you missed the boat on that one.

I recall reading something long ago about "public domain" and information that is voluntarily offered up on it, like in the social media, airwaves, television......and now the internet? If you ever put your phone number on Facebook, MySpace, a phone book or anywhere where it can be accessed by anyone, it is no longer personal, private information. Same goes for address, SS number...................etc. People get on the internet and volunteer damn near everything, including their kinkiest sexual adventures and their anti-government angst on public forums, billions of times every day.

Do I think it's unConstitutional, somewhat creepy, and approaching Orwellian that the government is listening to my conversations? Well, I doubt they really give a damn about my personal life or my twisted thoughts, but, yeah, I do think maybe it's gone too far...........

Have fun trying to stop it. Ima go put out some more birdfeed....Speakin' of criminal types taking someone elses stuff....damn squirrels.

Dave

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WaPo article...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...b5a_story.html