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Old 05-29-2013, 12:49 AM
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"A labor union representing roofers is reversing course and calling for repeal of the federal health law, citing concerns the law will raise its cost for insuring members."

Ahh ain't that a bitch.

LMAO !

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...ma-health-law/
So, which union was it that you couldn't cut it in?
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Old 05-29-2013, 02:24 AM
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The part of what?

(If I've missed something obvious, bear with me. I've had a little too much Angry Orchard............)

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Just the stuff like citing concerns .

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"A labor union representing roofers is reversing course and calling for repeal of the federal health law, citing concerns the law will raise its cost for insuring members."

Ahh ain't that a bitch.

LMAO !

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...ma-health-law/

Concerns?

More concernings.

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But regrettably, our concerns over certain provisions in the ACA have not been addressed, or in some instances, totally ignored.
Do I get to take my pick about what he is concerned about?

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For decades, our multi-employer health and welfare plans have provided the necessary medical coverage for our members and their families to protect them in times of illness and medical needs. This collaboration between labor and management has been a model of success that should be emulated rather than ignored. I refuse to remain silent, or idly watch as the ACA destroys those protections.
So I guess this means he is going to act on those provisions and protections that he is concerned about.
Oh wait, makes perfect sense now.

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I am therefore calling for repeal or complete reform of the Affordable Care Act to protect our employers, our industry, and our most important asset: our members and their families.”
I suggest calling the Betty Ford clinic.


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Old 05-29-2013, 12:48 PM
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Sounds like he's in management's pocket. It wouldn't be the first time a labor official has been co-opted by the owners.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:04 PM
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Sounds like he's in management's pocket. It wouldn't be the first time a labor official has been co-opted by the owners.

Agreed, I would be very concerned if I were in that union.


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Old 05-29-2013, 01:18 PM
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More from the Hill

In a new op-ed published in The Hill, UFCW President Joe Hansen homed in on the president’s speech at the 2009 AFL-CIO convention. Obama at the time said union members could keep their insurance under the law, but Hansen writes “that the president’s statement to labor in 2009 is simply not true for millions of workers.”

Republicans have long attacked Obama’s promise that “nothing in this plan will require you to change your coverage or your doctor.” But the fact that unions are now noting it as well is a clear sign that supporters of the law are growing anxious about the law’s implementation.


http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbyi...-on-health-law
"Hansen wants the Obama administration to use its regulatory powers to address the matter; a legislative remedy is all but impossible in the divided 113th Congress."' I wonder which party is responsible for that?
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:13 PM
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Sounds like he's in management's pocket. It wouldn't be the first time a labor official has been co-opted by the owners.
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Agreed, I would be very concerned if I were in that union.


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Yeah right

If you think these are the only unions pissed about this pile of chit coming at them, your clueless.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:15 PM
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Yeah right

If you think these are the only unions pissed about this pile of chit coming at them, your clueless.

Awwwww. LMFAO.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:51 PM
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Hansen................why does that name sound familiar?
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Naw, not the same dude. I met the guy who was the head of organizing for the mid-Atlantic region at a strategy session during an organizinig campaign at a local hotel, back in 1990 or so. I think that guys last name was Hanson, or maybe Gordon, but at any rate, he was black so it's not the same guy.

The UFCW offered me a position back then, I now wish I had taken it. I think it would have been a far more interesting and fullfilling career path than what I have been doing.

I had fun tryng to organize that hotel too. We finally succeeded, but it only lasted a few years. Then a new management team declared bankruptcy, fired everyone, renamed the business and reopened non-union or something like that. A year or so later they got caught by the INS hiring illegals, there were also charges of embezzlement, couple of them went to jail, IIRC. (Oh, darn.)

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Old 05-30-2013, 05:11 PM
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I wish my employer had nothing at all to do with my healthcare coverage.

Maybe, one of these days, they wont?

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The reason employers are still involved in healthcare is the same reason that they're involved in withholding taxes.

The government can control the employers because, as a rule, they are responsible when it comes to money...otherwise they wouldn't be employers for very long. If everyone got their greedy little paws on ALL of their money, the majority of it would be pissed away and the government wouldn't have the manpower to collect even what was left.

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