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05-03-2013, 01:58 PM
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Poisons in the home cause more death and injury to friends and faimly than intruders also. 87 people per day in the U.S. die from unintentional poisoning. Unintentional gun deaths average 2 per day.
Unintentional poisoning deaths increased 160% in the last decade.
Poisoning ranks #2 as the cause of unintentional death, beat out only by motor vehicles.
Drug overdose death rates have more than tripled since 1990.
This gun crap is all about politics and fear, and nothing to do with reality.
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05-03-2013, 02:01 PM
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how many were unintentional? The argument here was that it's unsafe to have a gun in your home due to accidental shootings.
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05-03-2013, 02:01 PM
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Hey, Iz a reul 'murican!
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05-03-2013, 02:08 PM
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Hey, Iz a reul 'murican!
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05-03-2013, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
how many were unintentional? The argument here was that it's unsafe to have a gun in your home due to accidental shootings.
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Chew on these numbers for a minute.
Various studies have examined who typically gets shot by a gun in the home. A study in King County, Washington (which includes Seattle) examined gun deaths occurring at home from 1978 to 1983 (N = 398). There were 9 total self-protection homicides (only 2 of intruders). For every self-defense homicide involving a firearm kept in the home, there were 1.3 accidental deaths, 4.6 criminal homicides, and 37 firearm suicides.[98]
A more complete study examined all gunshot injuries (nonfatal as well as fatal) in the home occurring in Memphis, Tennessee; Seattle, Washington; and Galveston, Texas (1992–1994) in which the gun involved was known to be kept in the home. Home guns were 4 times more likely to be involved in an accident, 7 times more likely to be used in a criminal assault or homicide, and 11 times more likely to be used in an attempted or completed suicide than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.[99]
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/753058_4
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05-03-2013, 02:12 PM
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I'd better not go home then
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05-03-2013, 02:14 PM
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Was, there have been about 30,000 gun deaths per year for the past 5 years running.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_g..._US_every_year
That's the equivalent of ten 9-11 attacks per year. Accordingly, there have been over 100 times as many killed by gun violence in this country than have been killed by terrorists since 9-11. In fact, there have been nearly 2000 times as many people killed by gun violence in the US last year (~30,000) as there have been US citizens killed by terrorism worldwide ( 17). Yet, we are willing to spend $ trillions and to curtail civil liberties to fight terrorism, but won't even pass a background check for a terrorist who wants to buy a gun at a gunshow or over the Internet. Explain that to me.
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You can't explain it....
I am not for banning weapons with the exception of semi-automatic assault rifles and large magazines. And background checks.
You guys all act like it is the end of civilization.
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05-03-2013, 02:22 PM
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You can't explain it....
I am not for banning weapons with the exception of semi-automatic assault rifles and large magazines. And background checks.
You guys all act like it is the end of civilization.
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They sure do veer right, into the guardrail of reason, over and over don't they?
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05-03-2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
You can't explain it....
I am not for banning weapons with the exception of semi-automatic assault rifles and large magazines. And background checks.
You guys all act like it is the end of civilization.
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I'm the only of a safe full of guns, am a distinguished expert marksman, an NRA Hunter Safety Instructor and a range safety officer. I'm just spewing a few facts.
As for a solution, I agree wholeheartedly with yours and have stated that same position many times on this board. FWIW, not a single one of my guns are semi-automatics. I have single shots, magazine-fed bolt actions, pumps, muzzleloaders and revolvers.
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05-03-2013, 02:24 PM
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I'd better not go home then
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All clear! I finished roto rootering an hour ago.  I stole all of yer ammo, tho.
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