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[ebacon]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

They did? Frequently? I'm sure you could find some examples then.

Or your lazy ass could if you were genuinely interested. But you aren't.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

They did? Frequently? I'm sure you could find some examples then.

You might've bitten off more than you can chew with that challenge, Was.

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by barbara

Right. And if those guidelines are followed the gun owner is totally defenseless if an intruder breaks into their home unexpectedly.

Kind of speaks to the very reason why guns in the home are more dangerous than useful.

I follow the guidelines, like I wrote above a simple trigger lock disables a firearm, and is removable in seconds. There is responsible home defense ownership despite what anti-gun preachers believe. I'd rather have a locked safe gun then be a defenseless victim.

Barbara, what are you gonna do if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night? Hope those police get there quick.

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by ebacon

In the 1980s the NRA was reasonable. They frequently reminded members that people are more likely to shoot a family member in a moment of passion than shoot an intruder.

I clearly remember that campaign. The NRA was an organization for sportsmen and conservationists back then. They were actually not for hand gun ownership at all. Now it is full of "shooting sport enthusiasts." BIG difference.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by MikeG22

I follow the guidelines, like I wrote above a simple trigger lock disables a firearm, and is removable in seconds. There is responsible home defense ownership despite what anti-gun preachers believe. I'd rather have a locked safe gun then be a defenseless victim.

Barbara, what are you gonna do if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night? Hope those police get there quick.

Mike, I am not anti gun ownership. I believe there is an appropriate time and place for guns. I just don't think the average joe needs to be armed to the hilt.

As for my own protection, I believe that preventative measures are the first line of defense. With all the security technology available today, preventative measures are not that difficult.

I've lived in some of the highest crime areas in my state and have had to defend myself and my family and done it without any guns. (Or police intervention).

Sometimes being able to think clearly and act efficiently is far better than going off half cocked with an itchy trigger finger just looking for trouble.

[barbara]

Just wondering, Mike.... How many times have you had to use your gun on an intruder in the middle of the night?

[MikeG22]

Never and hope it stays that way. Weak argument, all it takes is once and you'll be glad you were prepared.

Security systems you can wipe your ass with them. Make sure you advertise the brand on your house so they know to cut the phone wire before kicking the door in. How many times has it happened, once is too many.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by MikeG22

Never and hope it stays that way. Weak argument, all it takes is once and you'll be glad you were prepared.

Security systems you can wipe your ass with them. Make sure you advertise the brand on your house so they know to cut the phone wire before kicking the door in. How many times has it happened, once is too many.

Most are cell based now, Mike.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by barbara

Mike, I am not anti gun ownership. I believe there is an appropriate time and place for guns. I just don't think the average joe needs to be armed to the hilt.

As for my own protection, I believe that preventative measures are the first line of defense. With all the security technology available today, preventative measures are not that difficult.

I've lived in some of the highest crime areas in my state and have had to defend myself and my family and done it without any guns. (Or police intervention). .

Motion sensor lights, web based IR cameras, cell phone security systems, hardened door jambs, steel doors that look like wood and bars on lower story windows are all easy measures to deter would be thieves.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Motion sensor lights, web based IR cameras, cell phone security systems, hardened door jambs, steel doors that look like wood and bars on lower story windows are all easy measures to deter would be thieves.

A German Shepard isn't too bad of a deterrent either.