The Failure of No Government Regulation

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

my 6v6s are from an ebayer who bought them from russia
so there is an expansion effect


It is sort of hard to buy things here....it is more of a first world thing than an American thing....the developing nations relying on cheap labor from the third world, often at a danger to the workers there but alas it lets them eat too....and feed their children.

That underwear factory looks more like a cottage industry that probably employees the owner and a few workers ...nothing wrong with that.

But I do not want to work in an underwear factory.

I hate to say it, but those Russian tubes are damn nice. I have a set of the Russian Gold Lion (N709) 6BQ5s in my Maggie. Now that they've burned in they are amazing. The only thing American I have that comes close are a matched quad of NOS GEs, which were more expensive and at least 40 years old.

Tubes are one of those things, though. If you want something new, forget it. They ALL come from Russia or China, with only a handfull of very expensive brands that come out of Eastern Europe. But, NO newly manufactured American tubes AFAIK.

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

Mike are you being a bit tongue in cheek?
13 bucks for a single piece of white underwear?

Ya know, the phrase tongue in check just sounds totally wrong in a post regarding underwear!

Actually, I do go out of my way to look for "made in USA" when I buy. It's not a deal breaker if it's not, but given a choice between two otherwise identical items, I'll pick made in the USA every time.

I've also found the Internet can be very helpful. Searching for a certain item made in the USA, I can find many things available that I had no idea where still made here.

Incidentally, the "law of economics challenged" folks in the White House probably fail to understand how the tax could further hurt businesses that sell on the Internet. Often due to price disadvantages, made in USA items are sold direct to the consumer from the manufacturer or distributor.

[merrylander]

Florence has an item in her favourites list on her PC of all the made in America companies. I should lift the URL and post it here.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by icenine

The genie, if there ever was one, will not be going back into the bottle.

If she is the Jeanie I am thinking oof I don't want her back in the bottle.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by hillbilly

I got blasted again last week in Sears. I was needing a tool and asked for COO before going to checkout and a lady shopping over heard me asking and she asked what did it matter. I told her kindly, and explained that not only did it help keep Americans in work but the working conditions in China in which people take advantage of cheap labor were not so good. She came back at me with this: '' maybe so, but if we all decided not to buy products made in China then those people making very little in poor working conditions would be out in the street with nothing ''. I honestly didn't know what to say.

Don't forget we get the added bonus of keeping the largest mass murdering regime in history still in power. It's amazing how many people are ok with supporting a government that has killed tens of millions, and still will not give full freedoms to their own people. We used our dollars to bring down the racist government in South Africa, so I really don't get why we don't do it with an even worse group there.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Ya know, the phrase tongue in check just sounds totally wrong in a post regarding underwear!

Actually, I do go out of my way to look for "made in USA" when I buy. It's not a deal breaker if it's not, but given a choice between two otherwise identical items, I'll pick made in the USA every time.

I've also found the Internet can be very helpful. Searching for a certain item made in the USA, I can find many things available that I had no idea where still made here.

Incidentally, the "law of economics challenged" folks in the White House probably fail to understand how the tax could further hurt businesses that sell on the Internet. Often due to price disadvantages, made in USA items are sold direct to the consumer from the manufacturer or distributor.

Especially mens underwear.

Yes, some sell exclusively on the internet now. I bought a pair of steel toe boots online for work. "Carolina" brand, USA made. Nice boots, that actually fit my weird feet comfortably. (Size 10 1/2-EEEEEE) comfortably. They were $140, but my employer picked up $80 of that.

Dave

[Bigerik]

Actually, everything I am wearing is made in the USA or Canada. Every day I wear my handmade in the USA footwear. I've saved so much money by buying quality shoes. Plus my back is much happier!



Made like this:

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Especially mens underwear.

Yes, some sell exclusively on the internet now. I bought a pair of steel toe boots online for work. "Carolina" brand, USA made. Nice boots, that actually fit my weird feet comfortably. (Size 10 1/2-EEEEEE) comfortably. They were $140, but my employer picked up $80 of that.

Dave

Those aren't feet, those are swim fins!

(I guess they're useful for wading around in the BS here though.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I hate to say it, but those Russian tubes are damn nice. I have a set of the Russian Gold Lion (N709) 6BQ5s in my Maggie. Now that they've burned in they are amazing. The only thing American I have that comes close are a matched quad of NOS GEs, which were more expensive and at least 40 years old.

Tubes are one of those things, though. If you want something new, forget it. They ALL come from Russia or China, with only a handfull of very expensive brands that come out of Eastern Europe. But, NO newly manufactured American tubes AFAIK.

Dave

I have some 6P14s that are Russian too......and I do not feel bad buying something made in Russia like tubes.....no body makes them anymore here...it would be just very uneconomical.

What is amazing is that the people in Russia and China have figured out that there is niche market for this stuff here. People complain about the quality of Chinese tube amps but it amazing they figured out Americans and Europeans would buy them in the first place. That is the internet for you.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by merrylander

If she is the Jeanie I am thinking oof I don't want her back in the bottle.

Me neither!