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Old 04-25-2013, 02:24 PM
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Nah the League came at the close of the war. During the war he was busy making promises he couldn't keep

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Old 04-25-2013, 02:26 PM
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I think he was also the League of Nation President and most of all he wanted to bust the looming concentrations in financial institutions but got distracted by WW1.
I thought that was Rooosevelt?
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:27 PM
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You can see why the left would love him:

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes...-liberal-thoug

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Who said anything about "loving" Wilson. The point was the right still bitches about him..........And he's been out of office since 1920. 93 years later.

But suggest the GW left a mess five years ago and what do we hear?

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Old 04-25-2013, 02:40 PM
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Or Reagan

Is it just me, or has this forum been particularly fun today?

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I think he was also the League of Nation President and most of all he wanted to bust the looming concentrations in financial institutions but got distracted by WW1.
Actually bro he wanted America to join it but faced opposition from Senate isolationsists...the consensus is that because Wilson refused to compromise with the Senate (IIRC Taft Republicans? It has been awhile since college) we never joined the League and thus it was way weaker without us and could not stop Hitler later on. Wilson was so above compromise he deep sixed the League even though he wanted us to join it.

Wilson was also very traditionally old Democratic in regards to the apatheid existing in the South at the time. His lillywhite policy of not interfering with Jim Crow gave him the support of the Southern states during his election campaigns.
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Actually bro he wanted America to join it but faced opposition from Senate isolationsists...the consensus is that because Wilson refused to compromise with the Senate (IIRC Taft Republicans? It has been awhile since college) we never joined the League and thus it was way weaker without us and could not stop Hitler later on. Wilson was so above compromise he deep sixed the League even though he wanted us to join it.

Wilson was also very traditionally old Democratic in regards to the apatheid existing in the South at the time. His lillywhite policy of not interfering with Jim Crow gave him the support of the Southern states during his election campaigns.
Amazing, how racism is still used as a political tool after all of these years, isn't it?

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Old 04-25-2013, 03:08 PM
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It may interest some that, not only did he resegregate the White House (and believed in eugenics), he also used phrenology in the army intake system.

Eastern European folks ended up as the cooks and cleaners, the low rung.

This was not uncommon at the time. Even later Hitler was often seen as not being exactly wrong, just too, um, pushy. He was in many ways a product of the current intellasia-ish theories of his time.

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Amazing, how racism is still used as a political tool after all of these years, isn't it?

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Yes....although we have made great progress as a nation since then.....not perfect but great. The recent effort at voter suppression indeed effects people of color,even though the effort behind it may not be targeting skin color but rather what party a group is perceived to belong to. The terrible outcome and negative impact on our nation is the same however.

Presidents are a product of their times...the truly great ones.... Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt,FDR.....break the paradigm...or even just crack it.
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Or Reagan

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