Boston Marathon Bombing

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by bhunter

One caould have predicted that the press would say it was George Bush's fault, but I thought the dust would settle a bit before they'd make such an inference.

Huh? Whatcho smokin' BH? You been trawling Huff&Puff Post?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Who said anything about the bombings being Bush's fault? I believe that all the armchair quarterbacking and enemy combatant bullshit from the GOP is intended to lessen the public's appreciation for the outstanding job done by law enforcement (Federal, state and local) in Boston (and by extension the Obama administration (deserved or not). The GOP is seeing its (undeserved) reputation of being the party of national security being frittered away by Obama's relatively competent management of national security (when compared to Bush, anyway).

You are completely correct about Iraq Finnbow.....I see in some recent posts some weird claims that Muslims are killing each other more than other "groups". That sort of post just reveals fear of the "other" rather than a rational examination of the facts.

The Republicans want small government but at the same time complain about supposed lapses in national security on Obama's side. Plus their sequester will not help national security at all. Well Republicans if you want stronger security let us pay for it instead of trying to shut down the Federal Government.

I am starting to think this kid was just as much a mastermind as his dead brother. And he was probably using religion as an excuse to kill people with a bomb. He is indeed evil, but that is no reason to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and stereotype them as more evil than everyone else.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by icenine

He is indeed evil, but that is no reason to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and stereotype them as more evil than everyone else.

But how else can we generate enough fear for The Right to ever win elections?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Zeke

But how else can we generate enough fear for The Right to ever win elections?

They may be able to generate fear but their base is getting smaller and smaller....and they are only hurting themselves in the long run. Some are using this bombing as an excuse to stop immigration reform. BIG MISTAKE.


This nation needs two mainstream political parties that govern from the center.
Not one party full of rational moderates and another full of divisive fringe elements. Right now this nation is an 18-wheeler Semi with only about 14 tires inflated.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Oerets

From what I heard on the BBC American today the older of the two blamed the US for his wicked ways. Seems it was American's fault he smoked, drank and chased women. So that might be the battlefield he envisioned in his sick little mind.

He hated the fact women in this country were treated as equales, the whole modern woman thing. Seems their Mother and Father are a real pieces of work. Mother and the Father are arriving on Wednesday and I hope they get a thorough vetting!



Barney

Well we don't make them wear those bloody tents, but equals, not so much.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Just by the numbers worldwide the answer is yes. Also, is it possible to be a Muslim and not extreme? The only upside is that they tend to kill more fellow Muslims than non-Muslims. Moreover, this is not a recent phenomena, but goes back to the very foundation of Islam.

I don't think it's possible to understand the Muslim mind through the perspective of Western Judeo-Christian values; the goals, motivations, and politics are entirely different.

The difference being that they are not fellow muslims, the Sunni have hated the Shia for 1300 years.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by finnbow

And Christianity hasn't been? FWIW, there have been upwards of 150,000 firearms deaths in our "Christian nation" since 9-11 and well over 100,000 innocent civilian deaths in Iraq since we wrongly invaded. In the eyes of most of the rest of the world, we don't have the moral high ground to lecture about other cultures being violent, particularly when we refuse to do anything about our military adventurism and gun laws responsible for much of the mayhem.

I'm not an apologist for militant Islam, but a little perspective is in order. There are numerous Muslim nations where you infinitely safer on the streets than you are here. I'm vacationing in one this May (Turkey). I'll be going to Israel and Jordan in November and probably Morocco again next year. No worries here.

I would still be cautious an American woman disappeared in Turkey quite recently.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I would still be cautious an American woman disappeared in Turkey quite recently.

Istanbul is far safer than any big American city. No comparison, actually.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I would still be cautious an American woman disappeared in Turkey quite recently.

American women disappear in America every day. I'd say that makes Turkey more safe than staying home.

[Wasillaguy]

So now that these pressure cooker bombs have been designated as WMDs, I think it's reasonably safe to say there were WMDs in Iraq when we went in.

At least we don't have to hear that tired crap any more.