Idiots

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

So here's a conspiracy theory for you. There are those who posited that Obama set up the Sandy Hook shooting so that he could advance gun control. It is just as plausible that the whole incident was staged by the NRA and the rest of the gun industry so that they could profit from creating a scare that the gubmint is coming after people's guns. Just sayin'.

Regards,

D-Ray

This is easy for many of them to believe...........

But, suggest that Bush could have been behind 9/11.

(For the record, I don't believe he was. I'm just sayin'.)

Regards,
Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I truly hope that people could not be that evil.

Me too, Jack. But, sometimes, I wonder......................

Regards,
Dave

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Come on guys, is this any way to welcome back an old friend? I throw you a bone
and get accussed of being a paranoid conspiracy theory right wing nut job?

The NRA is under attack and they are not going down without throwing a
few punches. They are being drug into this fight along with innocent hobbyist,
hunters and sportsmen. An assault weapons and clip ban is just a formality.
What is an assault weapon anyhow? A military grade weapon designed to
wound and not kill? Those AR style weapons use a .223 which is really just
a souped up squirrel round. Does a pistol grip and a short stock make a rifle
more deadly? Take that same rifle and remove the pistol grip, add a scope and
it's just a common hunting rifle for small game. A common deer rifle could
be easily modified becoming much more of an assault rifle than a military
type assault rifle. 3 ten round clips could easily be cut with a dremel tool
and pieced into a 30 round clip.
Having said all that I do agree that the average guy should be subjected to
a background check before buying a gun and doctors should be able to report
persons of questionable mental health. But only under the conditions that the
government can not access those records and it is run by a third party.
Is that too much to ask?

Yes, it is too much to ask. What third party did you have in mind? The NRA perhaps? Not only would I not trust them to consciously screen applicants for anyone too unstable for gun ownership but I would be very uncomfortable having an advocacy group like them in possession of confidential and potentially damaging information on private citizens. Plus, if the government couldn't access the records it would give the organization impunity to approve unstable people or deny eligible people on the basis of, say, political party affiliation, sexual orientation or religion.

And tell me the fucking NRA would never stoop to that!

And a Bushmaster a squirrel rifle? Gimme a freakin' break!

John

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Is there anyplace you can get a liscense without safety training.

In Indiana all you need to do is pass a State Police background check fill out the form and pay your fee's to get a lifetime CC permit!







Barney

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Is there anyplace you can get a liscense without safety training.

Yes, but there probably are places where you can't get a license unless you know how to spell it.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

No it was one of the news channels while I was watching him live. Ya.... It takes to much concentration using my thumbs on this ipad. Need to start posting with my pc, Making to many mistakes.

Or you could just forget the whole thing.

[barbara]

After listening to the hard core gun enthusiasts here, in the media, and with friends, I've come to the conclusion that they just won't get the reasonable logic behind banning assault weapons until they see a loved one riddled with bullets.

Quite frankly, I think all this selfishness of having to have such deadly toys is like spitting on the memories of those who died at Sandy Hook

And The movie theater

And columbine

And... Well, all the other innocents who paid the price for a selfish, self centered gun culture.

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by Oerets

In Indiana all you need to do is pass a State Police background check fill out the form and pay your fee's to get a lifetime CC permit!







Barney

With reciprocity if I remember correctly....scary........

[HatchetJack]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yes, it is too much to ask. What third party did you have in mind? The NRA perhaps? Not only would I not trust them to consciously screen applicants for anyone too unstable for gun ownership but I would be very uncomfortable having an advocacy group like them in possession of confidential and potentially damaging information on private citizens. Plus, if the government couldn't access the records it would give the organization impunity to approve unstable people or deny eligible people on the basis of, say, political party affiliation, sexual orientation or religion.

And tell me the fucking NRA would never stoop to that!

And a Bushmaster a squirrel rifle? Gimme a freakin' break!

John

I never suggested the NRA but how about a non profit group made up of?
I dont know honest people of some sort elected by the people. It could
be funded by permits and background checks. I don't really trust the
goverment in that respect and not because of who they are and what
they stand for now but what other Governments have done with that
information in the past and God forbid what ours might become at a
later date. Turn on the news and you see other countries bombing and
shooting their own citizens and somehow that will never happen here?
It has happened here and we have only been "civilized" for what one century?
less? I really don't want to look it up but there have been over 100 million
people exterminated in this world just in the last 100 years by other countries
after gun control was implemented. Another thing, you get the wrong people
running this background check business and they could determine anyone
mentally unstable and "process them"

Ok maybe not a squirrel gun but certainly not a big game round. Those .223
military rounds are not legal for deer in Georgia. Ever wonder why people are
shot so many times by these?

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I never suggested the NRA but how about a non profit group made up of?
I dont know honest people of some sort elected by the people. It could
be funded by permits and background checks. I don't really trust the
goverment in that respect and not because of who they are and what
they stand for now but what other Governments have done with that
information in the past and God forbid what ours might become at a
later date. Turn on the news and you see other countries bombing and
shooting their own citizens and somehow that will never happen here?
It has happened here and we have only been "civilized" for what one century?
less? I really don't want to look it up but there have been over 100 million
people exterminated in this world just in the last 100 years by other countries
after gun control was implemented. Another thing, you get the wrong people
running this background check business and they could determine anyone
mentally unstable and "process them"

Ok maybe not a squirrel gun but certainly not a big game round. Those .223
military rounds are not legal for deer in Georgia. Ever wonder why people are
shot so many times by these?

Is this really the argument you are going for. That because the round is jacketed and does not "mushroom" or come apart like a non jacketed round that people are shot more times with them. You're logic would follow that the round should be unjacketed so the loon could kill more people as one shot one kill with that non jacketed round?

You really should read what you post before you post it. You're shooting your own argument in the foot.