More lunatics with AR15s.

[ebacon]

Bobabode is on a roll.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Bobabode is on a roll.

Don't mind me but y'all might want to watch out for my friend, the Bluestreak!

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Isn't the Barrett .50 available to anyone who has the hankering and the $ to buy one? I guess I need to visit a gun show for the first time in my life instead of wasting my time at Gem and Mineral shows. I can't wait for someone to tell me that it's just as easy to hit someone in the head with a rock and kill them, as it is to shoot them. Dead is dead is how these assholes like to put it. Maybe I could weaponize a kite and commit mass murder? What about bicycles? Any of you sick gun nuts thought of killer bicycles? Weld some blades to the spokes and mow down beachgoers.

Hey, gun nuts! Go look at the pictures of those kids and their teachers. Feel anything? Anything at all? You disgust me.

Happiness is a warm gun....f**king paranoid losers.

A .50 BMG rifle and ammo is far too heavy for anything but the range and very specific military ops. I'll take a bolt action Parker-Hale over a Barrett anyday. Considering the number of people that enjoy the shooting sports, it's absurd to assert that they are crazy. Short of a utopian goal of eliminating all guns—you might as well eliminate all violence—the efficacy of proposed gun laws is not demonstrable IMHO. What is demonstrable is that a significant cause for our relatively high homicide rate is due to illegal drugs.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Actually assault rifles are very little larger than .22 calibre, about .27 and were designed to maim rather than kill.

That's not entirely true. The AR-15/M-16 and its variants are small calibre, 5.56mm, or .223 calibre. On the other hand, the "traditional" AK-47 is a 7.62mm which is about the same as a .308 calibre round. Big difference. Kalashnikov does now make a 5.56mm version of the AK-47 these days and there's a 7.62 version of the M-16 based M-4. Also, the old 7.62 M-14 is making a comeback in the form of the M-14 "Enhanced Battle Rifle" which should be seriously cool.

If you want to add some of the submachine guns into the mix we can start talking about 9mm and .45 calibre ACP cartridges too. There really isn't a "rule" about bore size or ammo type for assault weapons.

One thing, though, about the comparison of bore size between a 5.56mm and a .22 caliber weapon, it fails to take into account the cartridge size and the weight of the projectile point. There is NO comparison.

The assumption being that when the enemy was maimed it would take two of his buddies to carry him off the field, thus taking three opponents out of action.

That's indeed true.

John

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by bhunter

A .50 BMG rifle and ammo is far too heavy for anything but the range and very specific military ops. I'll take a bolt action Parker-Hale over a Barrett anyday. Considering the number of people that enjoy the shooting sports, it's absurd to assert that they are crazy. Short of a utopian goal of eliminating all guns—you might as well eliminate all violence—the efficacy of proposed gun laws is not demonstrable IMHO. What is demonstrable is that a significant cause for our relatively high homicide rate is due to illegal drugs.

Agreed. A .50 BMG rifle is a conversation piece for the most part. It has few shooters and in close quarter situations it is useless except against mechanical targets such as car engines. Mass murderers don't kill car engines.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Agreed. A .50 BMG rifle is a conversation piece for the most part. It has few shooters and in close quarter situations it is useless except against mechanical targets such as car engines. Mass murderers don't kill car engines.

Snipers kill Presidents. The most feared and hated soldiers on any battlefield.

[ebacon]

Here's an idea. Let's let people have the biggest caliber rifles possible. That way they will be too heavy to carry ammo and too slow to acquire targets.

Oh wait. That includes black powder rifles which are already legal in even the most stringent countries.

Of course I'm being sarcastic for the most part, but at the same time I am trying to show why I would rather pay to let the NRA represent my interests while I'm not watching.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Snipers kill Presidents. The most feared and hated soldiers on any battlefield.

Mass murderers don't snipe. There might be some serial killers that do. The DC sniper comes to mind. How to stop that? Outlaw car trunks and bolt action rifles?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Mass murderers don't snipe. There might be some serial killers that do. The DC sniper comes to mind. How to stop that? Outlaw car trunks and bolt action rifles?

FWIW, he used the identical weapon that the CT killer did (a Bushmaster AR15) and not a bolt action rifle.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by finnbow

FWIW, he used the identical weapon that the CT killer did (a Bushmaster AR15) and not a bolt action rifle.

Understood. He used a cheap gun. But he could have done the same damage with a smithed Weatherby that he inherited from his grandpa.

I'm not a fan of cheaply made guns. Come to think of it I need a dose of Skynyrd's Saturday Night Special. Grr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKrVjvBm2L8