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Old 12-13-2012, 12:14 PM
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I'll let Pete speak for himself. My point in post # 19 was that both Pete and Ice found links that seem to dispute the link that I found. I can accept the fact that I may be wrong wrt the total amount of money different nations have involved. I was working from the point of the thread being about what the title suggested, AR 15s and like weapons.

(My copy and paste (post # 13) is a pain to try and read. The WIKI article is much easier to sort out.)
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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They will remain in circulation, unless we are going to outlaw armies.

Look at Breivik. If you want one you will get one.

Thank God these lunatics are usually incompetent.

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Pete found something too. Just for the sake of clarity, exactly what is meant by "Small arms"? How "big" is it before it is no longer a small arm?

I found this...

http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/weapo...finitions.html
Interesting. Too bad there's not a standard. How can one compare apples to apples? Btw I wasn't disputing what you said, just expanding on the subject.

This topic came about regarding a mention about the Mexican cartels.

Me, I've decided on this:



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Old 12-13-2012, 12:34 PM
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One could kill 2 people with a pocket knife.

The arms trade is large, and the US plays a big part:



but it's besides the point. All an assault weapons ban here would do is keep us from owning them. Anyone with money (like Mexican cartels) could still find containers of them on the world market.

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By the way, when reading this graph, ignore the bars and concentrate on the $$$. The number scale in the chart is totally whacked out.

The annual sales of the US are $1.2 billion. Germany is #2 at $384 million. The combined sales of the other 14 countries listed in the chart is $1.1 billion, slightly less than the sales by the US alone.

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:48 PM
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I noticed that, I suspect it's so it could fit in a sized box

Not surpising though, considering the proportionate size of our military. And population. I suspect that gap would narrow if the EU was counted in total.

JI, I came across this statement:

"The World Bank now estimates that out of a total of around 500 million firearms in circulation around the world today, around a fifth are Kalashnikovs - and something like 75 million are AK-47s or counterfeit knock-offs."

http://www.gizmag.com/kalashnikov-ak-47/12306/

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:52 PM
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It's a good thing Mikhail and John Browning didn't team up and decide to do the rest of us in!
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Not surpising though, considering the proportionate size of our military.
These are exports, Pete. The only connection to our military's size is in the sale of surplus (worn out) weapons.

[QUOTE]And population.

China and India have greater populations. China sells $27 million. India isn't even in the top 15.

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I suspect that gap would narrow if the EU was counted in total.
Germany, Austria, the Czech Republic, the UK, Sweden, Poland, Belgium and Italy are already on the list individually.

Try again, Pete.

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The size of the military means our production of arms is greater. It makes perfect sense we would sell more on the open market.

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The size of the military means our production of arms is greater. It makes perfect sense we would sell more on the open market.

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Why? Having the world's most expensive army as a captive customer isn't enough for the US arms manufacturers?

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Why should it be? Plus we are the largest individual comsumer market.

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Why should it be? Plus we are the largest individual comsumer market.

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