I guess a Christmas Tree is a religious symbol after all

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

It's really simple. No religious icons anywhere on public property anytime. Why? Because Christians have forced the issue, not atheists or anyone else.

Change the constitution if you don't like it.

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Yes, the Christians forced the issue by placing the same nativity scenes they've been using since forever where they always placed them at the time they always did

It cracks me up, the backflips done by those who would rewrite history to their liking.

Pete

You're both right.

Sorta. Pete, nobody's trying to rewrite history. It's just that the secularists, and many religious people, believe that public displays of religious nature, located on public property, are a violation of church/state separation. That goes for the Ten Commandments displayed in a courthouse or a manger scene in the lobby of a public library. The courts agree.

John

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Yes, the Christians forced the issue by placing the same nativity scenes they've been using since forever where they always placed them at the time they always did

It cracks me up, the backflips done by those who would rewrite history to their liking.

Pete

OoooOOooo, snaap!

Just cause the thundering thumpers have gotten away with it doesn't make it right, Pete. No rewriter here and I suspect you know that. Krappy Kringle, back atcha...now get off of my lawn.

[piece-itpete]

I fart in your general direction.



Wonder why just about every community in the US displayed the evil corrupting scene?

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Wonder why just about every community in the US displayed the evil corrupting scene?

Pete

Because the dominant culture here is Christian. It was an example of "the tyranny of the majority" though we Christians didn't realize it since we weren't the ones being imposed upon.

It took a rather obnoxious and generally unattractive atheist from Baltimore to change all that. Madalyn Murray O'Hair's campaign to end school prayer was the camel's nose under the tent. After that watershed, people began to examine all official manifestations of religion in American culture.

Really, there's no turning back now, nor should there be. Officially sanctioned sectarianism or denominationalism is an affront (admittedly, sometimes only a little one) to those of other - or no - sects and denominations. Moreover, it's a violation of the US Constitution.

I've often wondered whether O'Hair was the real problem. She really was an obnoxious person. If someone more appealing, particularly if that person were a practicing Christian or even a cleric, might have been a better salesman.

John

[piece-itpete]

Thank goodness she saved us from the evils of Christianity. Silly Founders, they didn't even know what the Constitution said. Bless those wise judges, saving us from ourselves!

Wait, scratch that. See how this insidious Christianity creeps into the very fabric of society, corrupting everything it touches?

Can we dig her up and take care of that Menorah I mentioned? It deeply offends me and is an effront to everything this wonderful country stands for. Think of the children!



OK I'll stop now lol.

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Can we dig her up and take care of that Menorah I mentioned?

Digging her up would be relatively easy. Reassembling her not so much.

John

[piece-itpete]

Yikes! That's awful.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by wgrr

I think the management, in this case, are assholes.

If you think for one minute nursing homes support democrats I got a bridge over the Golden Gate I want to sell you. They may want Medicare to survive but, they support nothing else Democratic.

Most nursing homes/assisted living homes are owned by large hospitals. If you burp the wrong way they rush you to the hospital....until you run out of money, then they let you die. Don't ask me how I know.

RIP dad after spending a million bucks over ten years in the nursing home.

My father refused to cooperate at the assisted care place because he believed old people are, in his words, "....nothing but cash cows to these people." At one point a nurse told him, "If you don't take your medications, you'll die." To which he replied, "Really? Ya think? I think that stuff IS death. Get the hell away from me with it." (He believed the "medication" they give people in the old folks home is intended to "zombify" them---make them easier to deal with. He referred to mangement at the home as "the perpetrators".)

Ironically, the nurses thought the world of him, some of them came to his funeral in tears. One said, "Your father was a wonderful man, sharp as a tack and stood up for himself right to the very end." I took that as validation for his notions.

Regards,
Dave

[piece-itpete]

I like your dad.

Pete

[merrylander]

All those folks who love to put up nativity scenes around this time probably could care less about christianity, Matthew had summat to say about this sort of behaviour.