2 year term. Good or bad.

[piece-itpete]

I suppose one could publish a paper on it, but isn't the argument that he wasn't an idiot worth something?

Hitler didn't think much of the US, although he would've preferred to keep us out. If our supplies effected the war (which of course they would) the u boats would've blown them out of the water. Hitler wasn't very good at officailly declaring war - before doing it.

Pete

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Roosevelt never broke that promise either. When a country bombs one of your naval bases on sovereign soil and the next day invades and occupies a second US possession and when a second country declares war on you, the war forced upon you is no longer a "foreign" one.

John

Most true....then you also have to consider all of the American lives lost.

[icenine]

Pete is so hard core Republican he just cannot except the good a Democratic President did 70 years ago. Of course if Wilkie would have declared war on Japan on 8 Dec 1941 everything would have been hunky dory.....

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

No. It's simple. Roosevelt lied about the coming war to get votes.

Pete

OMG! A politician promise peace to get votes? Shocking!

[piece-itpete]

And you guys talk about deifying the Founders, sheesh!

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

OMG! A politician promise peace to get votes? Shocking!

LOL! At least we're on the same page

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I suppose one could publish a paper on it, but isn't the argument that he wasn't an idiot worth something?

You could also link to someone else's paper in order to support your position. And simply acknowledging that Roosevelt wasn't stupid isn't any help to your argument at all.

Hitler didn't think much of the US, although he would've preferred to keep us out.

Actually, Hitler admired the US. It was the "Jew" Roosevelt that he hated.

If our supplies effected the war (which of course they would) the u boats would've blown them out of the water. Hitler wasn't very good at officailly declaring war - before doing it.

Yet that's exactly what he did. As for the U-Boats, again, that would have been an invitation to disaster for Germany. It would have stretched their resources of ships and crews too thin. That would have taken some heat off the Royal Navy and wouldn't have stopped the flow of arms.

In the end, though it can be argued that the Soviets defeated the Nazis, it's undeniable that taking on the US is what sealed Hitler's fate. There was no way he could have prevailed against the forces that were arrayed against him. That he came as close as he did is ample proof that just one fewer enemy just might have made the difference.

John

[piece-itpete]

What he actually said is readily available to those who seek it. It's good for civics too. Hard to have too much knowledge about how those who would hold us down go about it.

Agreed after the coward Stalin realised he had a chance the USSR did step up. Although if Hitler would've stuck to his original plan he might have won the eastern war.

I'm stepping off the merry go round now

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Hitler was a masterful crowd pleaser and manipulator....beyond that, he was a dumbass.
He figured he could order soldiers to not feeze to death during the Russian winter and laughed at the feasability of jets because they had no propellers. He also never figured out that many of his most valuable scientists and businessmen were Jewish, he had either killed them or run them off as quickly as he could. The latter of which worked out pretty good for us.

Stalin was a coward. It wasn't until his generals managed to get him out of the way that the tide turned for the Red Army.

Regards,
Dave