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Old 11-20-2012, 12:36 PM
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For a cold war liberal with a slightly GOP bent from Cleveland your ok!
I'm uncertain how to take that

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Old 11-20-2012, 12:40 PM
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Hey wig, I actually lived in an old CCC dorm for 6 months, and there's their stuff all over the place around here in the parks etc. Built like brick shithouses.

Which I assume from common venacular are built pretty well!

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Old 11-21-2012, 11:38 AM
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I'm not sure how running on an antiwar platform, or turning away Jewish refugees, makes for anti-nazi.

But yes, he was President-For-Life (sigh).



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World war 1 was still in memory. That European disaster which sucked in Americans!

Still ,outsmarting the opposition, he found a way to supply and support Britain.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:47 AM
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Regarding the war, I have no problems with what he actually did (outside of Pearl Harbor prep!). Too easy to armchair quarterback.

But he ran on an antiwar platform...

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:10 PM
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But he ran on an antiwar platform...
Shouldn't everyone?
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:15 PM
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:56 PM
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I do not think anyone ever runs on a pro-war motif...think Nixon and Vietnamization and how long that took plus the escalation of the war into Cambodia. Bush ran on a stay the course sort of campaign re Iraq. I was in Iraq at the time. I was really angry he waited until after the election for the invasion of Fallouja in November in which about 150 men and women died that month. I thought it was sort of put off until after the election so he would not be damaged with the electorate. Speculation but that was how I felt at the time.

I guess the greatest example would be the Wilson campaign slogan "He Kept Us Out of War" which was negated by the resumption of Germany's unrestricted sinking of US merchant ships.....causing us to inter in 1916 or so.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:53 AM
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I do not think anyone ever runs on a pro-war motif...think Nixon and Vietnamization and how long that took plus the escalation of the war into Cambodia. Bush ran on a stay the course sort of campaign re Iraq. I was in Iraq at the time. I was really angry he waited until after the election for the invasion of Fallouja in November in which about 150 men and women died that month. I thought it was sort of put off until after the election so he would not be damaged with the electorate. Speculation but that was how I felt at the time.

I guess the greatest example would be the Wilson campaign slogan "He Kept Us Out of War" which was negated by the resumption of Germany's unrestricted sinking of US merchant ships.....causing us to inter in 1916 or so.
If my memory serves me......it was the Marines who were sent in to do house to house fighting in Fallouja. What a waste of the flower of our youth!
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:55 AM
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If my memory serves me......it was the Marines who were sent in to do house to house fighting in Fallouja. What a waste of the flower of our youth!
My son was involved in that. He doesn't talk about it much.
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I was in Iraq at the time. I was really angry he waited until after the election for the invasion of Fallouja in November in which about 150 men and women died that month.
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If my memory serves me......it was the Marines who were sent in to do house to house fighting in Fallouja. What a waste of the flower of our youth!
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My son was involved in that. He doesn't talk about it much.
As terrible as it was for our soldiers, it was - and continues to be - far worse for the civilian population of Falujah.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...a-2034065.html

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